SteemWorld Support tomorrow ON or OFF?
Before I went to sleep, my SteemWorld Support Proposal was sitting well above the Return Proposal with over 2 million SP distance. Now I woke up and saw that I'm no longer being funded, because @clayop voted for the Return Proposal with ~ 3,6 million SP.
Again and again, I experience that the Proposal System puts way to much pressure on developers and has nothing to do with receiving stable payments. I already lost many days of rewards, mainly, because the Return Proposal is being pushed around without further investigating the consequences and without elaborating which projects/lives could be hit by a single click from a big stakeholder.
I tried many things in my life, worked for many different companies and I have gone through a lot of shit that I don't wish anybody to experience, but never was I hit by something like receiving no earnings for my work in my life.
Do I need to mention that I was able to power up more STEEM in the last few weeks than ever before and I now need to think about starting a Powerdown, because I don't know, if I will receive enough rewards to make it through the next month?
This feeling is what many big stakeholders just don't know, because they do always have some funds for months laying around. In my heart it feels like being dead from one moment to the other while working as usual on the same things as before.
As I stated earlier in a comment:
The main problem is that the Return Proposal was voted way to high, so that hardly anybody who is not working for 'the top' will ever reach/hold the required level.
I think that the level around 8-10 million SP should be enough for now to prevent really 'harmful' proposals from getting funded. What currently is mainly being prevented by the Return Proposal is the success of alternative projects on Steem.
Don't get me wrong, I do like the SPS and it would work perfectly for many of us. As the whole world of Steem lost 10% of their vote's value with the last HF to enable having a stable SPS fund, it should be relatively easy to grasp that smaller projects should also have a chance to get funded. There is enough in the SPS pot, so why not using as much as possible to get more things done at the same time?
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Yes, I just noticed this too. Strange stuff.
I would vote you for witness and many others as well. Your tool is a great boon to the STEEM community.
Post as much as you like you have paid your dues it isn't taking from the rewards pool man. That is EARNed STEEM. Keep with the SPS too. Freakin' do it all. I support you 100%. goes to vote for your Steem Proposal
Don't trip potato chip.
Thanks, never thought about that, but would really be an option :)
You are a good dude with hella skillz. I know you are good for it man. I mean most peeps that have major tools have witness nodes too. Your site is my favorite nav tool for txs on-chain. I trust you. I hope more people see that you give at least 2 fucks about all of us.
Entitled much?
It’s a good tool, like many others here on Steem, but you are not entitled for the community to pay for your closed source project. (Nor is anyone else, open or closed source).
Many tools and apps have been developed without community funds, not sure why you feel you are more entitled than them.
The SPS is designed in a way where payments are not guaranteed, and the changes in voting would make proposals funded one day and not the other. This is normal and most are taking this into consideration when making a proposal.
Are you saying that unless you are guaranteed (the very high amount you asked for), in whole, you will not continue the tool? As you have received funds.. no? This could be a good thing to clarify, as you have already collected funds and most likely will again.
Your lack of updates, clarity on what exactly you will do with funds, and posts that sounds more like guilt trips than proposals or updates aren’t the best way to go about it imo.
Maybe instead of trying to guilt people, you could actually show people why it’s something beneficial for all of Steem. And if the community decides its not, maybe you should charge those who seem to depend on it so much.. as I don’t really see it bringing people to Steem, more makes things easier for a few that are here, so perhaps you should pay for services that way if you are unhappy with the support you are receiving.
Just some friendly advice, as my goodness these posts are over the top.
WOW @justineh
Bitchy Much !
Bitchy? I think it was an honest comment. The post is pretty bitchy if I’m honest.. yes my comment may be an unpopular opinion, but there was nothing bitchy about it. Perhaps you should re read it.
what she said mostly. especially this part... maybe you should charge those who seem to depend on it so much
Don’t be so negative Micheal.. sheesh.
We all already paid, because we lost 10% of our voting value for posts to fund the SPS. Therefore I think the funds should be way better distributed.
My post is not just related to funding SteemWorld. I'm sure I will go my way. It's more about improving the system in general.
Why are you so negative? That won't help you much on your way, tweety :)
Don't forget that we are all sitting in the same boat.
Did you read my proposal, where I stated that I'm already preparing my codebase to be open sourced in the next few months?
Correct me, if I'm wrong, but isn't SteemPeak also a closed source project that wants to get funded through SPS?
I don't think so. If that's the new normal, I will go back to posting and take it from the rewards pool or by running a witness node.
Of course, I will continue the tool as long as it is sustainable. That is why I need to use a funding source that will always work, not just sometimes. I don't think that 77 SBD per day is too much, since I am doing this in full time and I also work on weekends.
I don't know what your brain expects, but I am an honest human being and I will continue to be one. People seem to like my posts, so I don't see any problem in there.
You are right about the 'lack of updates' point though and I will try to do better from now on ;)
I won't comment much on this, but let me tell you that you are way to much focused on negative aspects, imo. I'm glad that you don't work for me, because I'm sure that I would go crazy over time... ^^
Anyway, thanks for your thoughts! After I put it through my filters, I really see a few good advices in there.
There is nothing negative about my comment, tweety... it was in response to your post, which seems quite .. well.. like throwing a fit? That is quite a passive aggressive response, I must say.
Steempeak did put in a proposal, yes.. (which they have not received any funding on) and they seem to not only not feel entitled to funding (stating updates will happen either way), but also understand that funding is not guaranteed and stated even “we acknowledge that we will be funded at some points and not at others, and are ok with that.” And get this.. even did a detailed proposal listing exactly what would be added and have done many updates as well as implementation already.
Not really sure your point of bringing that up.. but in my opinion - yes a well done front end and landing page is better for the price of STEEM then a tool used by a percentage of individuals already here ... but I wasn’t actually comparing, you were.
So I’m not sure what that has to do with this?
I don’t work for anyone here, so I’ll add you to the list of those who are glad I don’t work for them I guess 🤷♀️
“Yes” men are better for the ego, but honesty from a committed community member can be pretty enlightening. Of course it’s easier to then try to bash the person, which really shows your character there.
Odd to try to focus or imply on me being negative just because I am critical of your choices. I guess I missed all that positivity in your guilt trip of a post.
My response was not meant to be aggressive. I'm a very sensitive person and your comments often are so ... punching right in the face, even without knowing much about the other side of the story. For your style of wording there is a different style of reply required, I think.
Let's be real. It would be way better for SteemPeak (and all of us) to get always funded by the SPS. With or without details about updates, many people do like and use the platform regularly and that's enough imo. We should not be focused too much on every single detail, when the overall mission is a good one.
Yes, you are critical and that's not a bad thing, but you should try to be more empathic in your wording.
So you come at me with an aggressive response, as well as all your buds, and your excuse is that you are a sensitive person and I lack empathy? Ok.. well my comment was constructive and had a point, yours was just to attack me. Can I now come in and point out all the ways you attacked me and hurt me, as I am a sensitive person as well?
Maybe if you could just focus on the actual project and my actual response, instead of turning this into some sort of emotional thing, this would be more productive.
And I highly disagree with that statement and it makes me question if you understand what the fund is and how it’s supplied.
No one should be “always funded” especially with no desire to provide details on what is being funded. In fact I’d rather it all be burned than that.
It’s not a free for all... it’s inflation and the price is in the toilet. That should be a concern for us all. Perhaps that is what you should be empathetic of.
@justineh To be honest I've been on your side with most of what you say but I did feel your comments on this post seem very aggressive and unnecessary. You do come across as attacking the user for putting out the post rather than giving an opinion which we are all entitled to have. It's it's to provide useful feedback even better. Good or bad.
Steemworld is the best tool on the chain for users to get information and has been since I started so funding some development for it isn't bad thing and is what the SPS is designed for. There are no guarantees for funding it but a worthwhile investment. I agree that projects getting funded should be putting out information to show how the money is being used as we have seen enough exit scams over the years but there is a way to go about it and i think you missed the mark on this one.
I advised him to focus on telling us about his project and how it adds value, not focus on personal issues of why he needs funding. I feel that was pretty good advice honestly.
As I said in another comment, I could have probably worded it better, and can acknowledge that. But quite frankly this type of post is not new for this particular user and at some point it needs to be pointed out.
Yes, I could have done so better.
Thanks.
100% you had some good advice in there as well and something for him to take on board but as you know yourself the message can sometimes get lost amongst the drama.
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All we can do is keep trying to improve and work together for the best outcome. Have fun.
"opinions we are all entitled to have" what a load of horse shit. According to her on her Buddy Bernie Sanders post
he created titled "if you want free speech go write in a diary", she is the top voted comment by Bernie in which she fully agrees with his thoughts. You see.. only her and Bernie are allowed freedom of opinion and thought. Not you little pee ons.
https://steemit.com/notentitledtoshit/@berniesanders/you-want-free-speech-go-write-in-a-diary
As I said, my comment was not meant to be aggressive and I don't want to attack you in any way. I even voted your comment in the first place with a 100% vote, because, as I stated, I saw a few good advices in there. Let's just stop the drama here.
I just wanted to say that there is no reason for well known and from a large part of the community regularly used platforms to talk about each single move they make, because the time could rather be spent for developing new features instead.
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People like you are the ones who complain about closed source applications, when they are using Windows, Adobe, Office, etc. and their children also work with closed software.
Hypocrites, false, liars and opportunists
I’m literally not complaining about closed source and my comment does nothing of the sort .. in fact I disagree with the “open source or nothing” mentality. I just don’t see why someone feels so strongly that his project should be paid for by the community, when it’s privately owned and not meant to benefit the community as a whole.
You seem quite emotionally invested in this. I get he’s a nice guy and probably many of your friend, perhaps read my comment again and stop assuming you need to defend him, as I wasn’t attacking.
First full disclosure: I do not know you @justineh and I do not know @steemchiller. I do not have a dog in this fight.
What I do have though; I have a stake in this platform. And for this platform to work, the "influential folks", yeah that is you both, must work together. You both claim to be sensitive; but this post is already a dog flight!
@justineh you start your original comment with this
Not a very good way to start a sensitive discussion, eh? If you like the project, vote; if you don't, don't vote. If you think this post is over-rewarded, take action. Stop writing long comments!
@steemchiller; I support your project and voted this post with 100% VP and many of your past posts too. But you do sound like a "guilt trip". I have reached out to multiple individuals with both large and small stake to vote for your project, and you do not even know me. But my request to you, is to tone it down. This is not a proper tone to ask for funding support.
my two cents
Fair assessment and yes I should be more careful with my wording. This is the second post which I have read about the project that was nothing about the project and more focus on a guilt trip. I guess I just felt the need to address it.
Clearly I could have done so better.
Thanks for the advice.
Thank you!
much better
:)
Nice responses, me i get plenty of flags then the holier than thou on discord, you are a bully now!
What a load of bullshit. You are Aggroed and you are a PERSONAL friend of Justine. So fuck off with your "I don't have a dog in this fight" horse shit.
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Steemfriends.org is no longer working. The exchanges are dropping Steem. Steem is falling in ranks. They are killing Steem on purpose. They are pulling a "building 7" of Sept 11 style planned collapse on Steemit Inc. Bankruptcy is coming in 2020. Brace for impact.
Just another example. Steemworld is next..
https://steemfriends.org/index.php
I think it's safe to say that the support staff of basically every Steem-based service relies on SteemWorld. I've run or worked for a diverse range of services at this point and none of them would have been functional without SteemWorld's access to recent blockchain data. The only other service that's remotely comparable is Steem Block Explorer, which is painful to work with.
Maybe you don't use SteemWorld but if it stopped my business would become incredibly more difficult to operate, as would each of the others I've worked with, and I presume quite a few others. I'm a fan of Steempeak but its importance is not comparable.
I was not comparing, only pointing out the issues I saw in the post.
For my projects I pay for a service which we depend on.
I’ve never said that steemworld did not add value and have supported it in the past. I know many users find it valuable. I was simply pointing out (since for some reason the comparison was being made even though the two projects are not competing for funding or anything of the sort) that it does nothing for adoption, rather just provides a service for those already here (which again, is valuable).
Care to give an example there? It’s a UI for the Steem api. I can’t think of a Steem based service that would depend on it or why. (Honest question here). It is a way to easily see the data in a user friendly UI, but what services depend on it? Curious what I am missing there.
I just do not agree with the idea that it should 100% rely on community funding through the SPS and then get posts like this when the voting fluctuates. To me it shows lack of knowledge of the system and the comments show lack of concern for the price of STEEM.
The project has been highly supported and I would have bet that it would have received funding from SPS again. Many proposals have fluctuated and that meant they didn’t get “all” or any of the funding asked for.. it’s how it works.
I guess I was just taken aback by the post which (like the proposal) was more about personal issues and less about the project that funding was being asked for.
I never said the project does not add value.. if it didn’t, it wouldn’t have received the funding that it has.
Basically anytime anyone does anything with Steem and ends up with a result they don't expect. When I was with Minnowbooster, this was "I sent a transfer and didn't get a vote" or "I got the wrong size vote." (Even today Steemworld is still the only place it's reasonable to see a transfer and a vote on the same page.) At SBI it's "I sent a transfer that was missed" or "The bot isn't voting my posts" or "Is the bot working right today?" Reading a vote pattern anywhere else to figure out which part of the bot might be broken is just lol.
In the Mesopotamians I used Steemworld as a list of posts the accounts were voting in order to generate statistics and do the membership curation posts. At that time no front end had the ability to create a feed of posts an account had voted on.
When I was writing test code for curation maximization, SteemWorld's curation return predictor was essential for being able to work on my methods in real time. Nobody else does this.
At Otterworks, without SteemWorld I might not be able to develop for Splinterlands at all. Not only is it there for me to verify transactions that go astray, and for the many, many times when Steem-Engine can't report its own data correctly, but the other explorers have all decided to obfuscate Splinterlands custom JSONs. The data structure in them is both extremely important and almost entirely undocumented, so pretty much the only way to learn to do anything is to make a transaction and peer at its contents. Even on Steemd they look like this:
That's not expandable, by the way. If something goes wrong with one of those it's colossally useless. On Steemworld they expand to their full data and I can see what's going on.
Lately at Herons Unlimited I've been having to create accounts with account creation tokens due to a technical issue with a new way Splinterlands is doing signups. Even as a dev, it is ludicrously difficult to do this in a practical fashion anywhere but SteemWorld.
Yes, it's a UI for the Steem API. That's something everybody doing anything here needs, and it's the only one that does it well on an immediate scale. Beem's probably more important to me overall, but Beem is clunky as hell to do anything you need to do one-off, like answer "what went wrong in that transaction?" The other web interfaces aren't worth talking about; all the ones that have decent UI, like Peak's history, selectively omit things. As I posted above even the canonically rawest block explorer made itself useless for a lot of the transactions I deal with. Steemblockexplorer is ok once you're used to its quirks, but it still takes fives times as long to do anything with.
I am enthusiastic about Steempeak, the more I was shocked by your comment.
You sure? That's not how I understood the words.
Steempeak asked for 10 times more
I can only say that nobody needs to explain me what benefits steempeak or steemworld have. I support both and find it very annoying to see that these two tools, that are the best for me on Steem, are not funded.
We can vote the Return Propostal even higher, so that nobody is supported anymore! That is nonsense, of course, and I would just like to call for a reasonable level. It is currently too high from my point of view.
My comment has nothing to do with steempeak, it was in response to the post. Not really sure why the two are being compared.
If you support both, awesome. (I used to as well).
This post, the one above, very much comes off as entitled and a guilt trip. If you don’t read it as such, that’s fine and you can leave a comment saying so.
I’m not sure what most of what is discussed in the post has to do with his proposal like not sure how he will be “making it through the next month” or anything else there, seems more to imply that he wants to work full time on Steem (and live off of it) and is frustrated that a loss in a few days of payments due to the return proposal being voted.
I guess I don’t think it’s the communities responsibility to pay his, or anyone else’s, bills. Especially in the bear market we are in and when the price of STEEM is something we all should be concerned with, not figuring out how to suck as much of the inflation as possible out in my opinion.
If there are developments or proposals that will improve or add value to STEEM, yes they should be considered for funding. But those funds aren’t just a free for all that individuals should feel they are entitled to or that “need to be spent” - which again.. is what this post felt like.
That's because I saw you were a member of Steempeak Team.
But you're right, it leads away from the actual question: Is the Return Propostal currently too high?
I agree! Thank you for your point of view.
Oh.. Yes, my “role” should probably come with a warning label.
My comments have nothing to do with steempeak or speak for them and I most definitely was not trying to compare the two, just like I was not comparing steemworld with any other proposals.
I’m just here, as a member of the community, pointing out issues I see in this specific situation.
Thanks for clarifying.
You are "just here as a member of the community". That statement alone proves what we all already know. That is like a wolf standing in a pack of sheep stating "just little old me, just here as a member of this pack of sheep". Your statement in and of itself proves you are not a part of the community, the fact that you have to keep repeating it is absurd. You need to say it, and often, because the exact opposite is true. You are Stinc's mouthpiece. And you have THEIR interests afoot. The people of Steem have voted, and they have chosen STEEMWORLD. So stick that in your crack pipe and smoke it horse face.
People like you are the ones who complain about closed source applications, when they are using Windows, Adobe, Office, etc. and their children also work with closed software.
Hypocrites, false, liars and opportunists
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Very well said, you saved me an answer! 👍🏼👌🏼
And not funded right? Silly to bring it up. Maybe both are asking for too much (or maybe there are other reasons for not being funded). Again, it doesn't matter.
It did not take long for you to turn into the next @surfermarly. I hope you do not last as long as her.
No clue what this means.
Did Marly point out some issues with your bud too and you all freaked out on her? That would make sense actually....
Yeah she was being a dick too. Did not make her grow one neither, though.
Yeah she was being
A dick too. Did not make her
Grow one neither, though.
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Not sure how my comment was being a dick, but ok. Yes it’s come to my attention that criticism from women on this platform is not handled well. I don’t come to the same conclusion as you though.. actually it seems those most offended by criticism might be the ones missing one.
Hey look, you got a haiku though! 😍
You might not be aware, that there are no girls on the internet.
You are the one who brought up “she’s” and growing dicks, my dear.
People like you are the ones who complain about closed source applications, when they are using Windows, Adobe, Office, etc. and their children also work with closed software.
Hypocrites, false, liars and opportunists
Before the edit, the comment started with:
Yep and I have stated many times that is how it came across. I just now edited as I was informed in DM by Asher that apparently that one sentence made the rest of my comment invalid as it was “too harsh”.
I disagree with this actually, as reading the above feels very entitled, upset, and an attempt to guilt individuals, but hey.. maybe that’s just my interpretation.
So, that’s me being a dick? And is the reason your comment is saying I won’t grow one? I’m so confused by the responses here I don’t even know what to say anymore 😄
My advice - More focus on the project, and what it provides.. less focus on “woe is me” and stating personal issues as a reason that funding is entitled.. which is what my first comment stated. The rest of this is just noise.
So you can come at him all personal because he is not in your circle of buddies and now you invert the whole situation claiming to be the victim of what you did in the first place. Projection much ?
Oh goodness.. nope, I still think the post screams of entitlement and not the actual project itself and still stand by everything I said.
I have no circle of buddies .. and there is no projection, just honesty. Not calculated comments to try to make the other person look bad, which has nothing to do with the project, just my honest opinion.
I’ll edit the comment back to “entitled much” from the current “This feels very entitled”
I didn’t realize that change would cause such conspiracies and victim accusations.
I’ll put this here again -
You backed down, because Asher told you to.
edit: btw that is exactly what marly would have done, too.
No, I reworded my initial sentence due to feedback I received that it was harsh and uncalled for. Clearly your comments and others say the same.
I put it back to the original way, I think it gets my point across quite clearly. As it is a very butthurt and entitled post.
Feel free to pick out something else completely unrelated to the conversation to try to come at me with.
Edit: I guarantee you our conversation did not go the same way. I’m trying to be polite, but as I told him, I don’t feel the need to baby grown men who are butthurt. He seemed to agree with you.. and well, I don’t. So maybe you guys can chat it up.. as this most definitely wasn’t a “Marly” type situation. You clearly don’t know be very well 😉
This conversation seems more personal than needed and your constant need to bring someone up that you apparently had an issue with confirms that. So I’ll end it here. Feel free to criticize me all you want.. but she’s not even here to weigh in at this point, so perhaps you should focus on the actual conversation at hand.
No. You backed down, because you did not get the backup you expected.
What else is there to it ? The chiller was sad that he lost the funding for his project. I do not think he should rely on it either, but you were just being a bully and I can not see what point you are trying to make exactly other than criticizing his tone.
I didn’t expect backup .. and haven’t changed my points in the slightest. I changed one sentence (which I now changed back). As I said.. you clearly don’t know me very well.
My point is made repeatedly- less focus on personal reasons for needing money and more focus on the actual project he wants funded. It seems pretty straight forward.
👍🏼 Agreed.
But again I just want him to show why his project is worth funding and understand that the funding is not guaranteed.
I supported the project before the proposal was more on why he should be able to pay his bills with STEEM and less about the project and what value it adds to STEEM.
Maybe that’s harsh to some .. but quite frankly my stake is affected by it, so maybe I take that personally. As we all should be concerned with the current price of STEEM in my opinion.
The funding is for him working on it full time as a dev. That is why he is complaining about not being able to pay the bills.
Funny you bring up the low prices too; I think they make people appreciate a useful frontend and blockexplorer dev over a cute rear end such as yours. If the prices were better, you could have probably plowed through with your bullshit.
Wow you are quite a peach. Perhaps we should compare contributions to STEEM another time..
Your personal focus on your own personal issues may be worse than the original post. This conversation seems quite pointless then.. have a great day sunshine!
You need to learn your place, bitch.
Is that you bernie ? big fan here.
Not gonna lie: I expected more flags and much earlier.
I did not think it would be over something like this, though.
You're being rude and disrespectful to someone who has done far more for this shithole than you ever have or will.
Like I said, learn your place.
If the price ever recovers, it will be because of communities and/or sm tokens, backed by tools like steemworld, not because of her fluff.
I know my place alright; I am right were I am supposed to be. We are rude around here.
REPOSTED as the clowns will try to hide the truth. POWERDOWN IF YOU CAN SEE THIS. THEY ARE PURPOSELY KILLING STEEMIT INC.
You have single handedly made the most user friendly Steem Blockchain tool known to Steemit. It is easy to use, simple, and makes understanding all things Steem related simplified for the average joe Steem user.
The fact that you have done this on your own is absolutely amazing. You Sir have done better than even the Steem devs themselves, in creating something that will make using the blockchain user friendly. This is something that should be respected, and revered. Not frowned upon.
So you have applied for support. And if this platform had been democratic, or unbias in any way giving you funding would be a no brainer. But I am going to tell you something no one else is willing to admit, in fear of losing their accounts. The powers that be want to bring the death of Steem, as both a currency, and as a platform. They are working towards bankruptcy and have done everything they can to conceal this from the average users.. so as to not collapse the currency before they complete their financial extractions in full. I was at Steemfest4 and can assure you of this.
They will not be funding you sir. What you have given Steemians is so well loved by them your application has become oxygen to the Steem ecosystem.
Aside from that your application makes it simple for people to not only view their own transactions, but to also easily view the transactions of others. eg. the hundreds of thousands being moved by Steemit Inc. owned accounts etc.
They do not want people to see what is really happening behind the curtain, much less aid by means of financial support in helping people to do so.
The average joe has no idea how to explore the blockchain in such a way. You know this, I know this, and they know this. Even though we know they will step in and insist Steemd still exists etc.
Further to that as can be seen in a multitude of comments going back years now, Justine pushes Bernie's agenda in the name of community. The same man who death threats people, and harasses women and children sexually, as well as generalized harassment that went on hourly for years now under a plethora of his accounts.
She will tell you this turtle account has harassed her and women. I will tell you this, people with shared access to this account have held a mirror up to her, as well as Bernies behavior and gone after her hypocrisy, and that of those in her circle jerk.
She certainly doesn't like people saying things about her that are all true and on the blockchain, such as the fact that she shares vulgar pornographic nudes, which includes lude acts on herself for 'kingdong' aka Bernie, under her thescarletletter account (please view the savetheturtles blog post for more info), as well as other alts she has. She will call pointing this truth out harassing, but she has no problem with Bernie her buddy wishing death on people, harassing women and children with vile fithly hourly messages, not one time did she ever stand against it, yet she speaks so much of the work she does for the community. She is a vile, hateful, horrid person. She absolutely exudes evil in every capacity. You know what they say, "those who yell the loudest", well that explains her.
https://www.someecards.com/usercards/viewcard/MjAxNC1lMmFmYjRmZTdiYzkxNmNl/
It can be noted that within less than 2 hours of her ignorant comment to you in the name of community, "Bernie" appears with more vulgar harassing comments here, but this time for you in the same post, along with the nasty gif to boot. It is well known that Justine is his _ _ _ K buddy, as well as his mouth piece. She also shares the passwords to his main accounts. This is why no one will dare go against anything she says. Not because she is right, but because they know full stop that if they speak out against her, she will sick Bernie on you like sicking a dog on someone. And after such people can kiss their accounts goodbye.
A man in this very string of comments was already told to "know his place" merely for kindly speaking his truth to Justine.
This is a DICKatorship, and Justine is the Dick. She is a narcissist and will view this as a compliment. I assure you Justine this is not a compliment. People see you for what you are. You are a nasty person. People can't stand you are only bow to your bullshit because they know you sick Bernie on them, and are in fear of losing their accounts. Gross. slow clap
Anyone can go look at Bernies post which states "If you want free speech go write in a diary", and she is a top voted by Bernie comment full heartedly agreeing with the notion of not having free speech. She sure likes having her free speech though doesn't she.
When you are F_ _ _ ing the top dog it is easy to have free speech.
This place is a joke. And Justine and Bernie are the clowns.
Clearly you are a man of vast talent. And you are not given the support you deserve by Steemit Inc. Nor will you ever get it. Certainly not now with bankruptcy on the horizon.
My sincere suggestion to you is that you invest your time with another project elsewhere. They are unworthy of your application. Mind you the loss of Steem World will further suffocate the platform. Which is exactly what their intention is over all.
I wish you all of the best in your future endeavours.
Peace be with you.
Learn your place? Just like North Korea isn't it. This place is gross. Glad the trip to Steemfest was the end of this investigation. These people are disgusting. I got paid so no skin off my nose.
Cheers!
Go to my post to learn more about who Justine really is. She is one of dozens of alts. and Bernies _ _ _ K buddy. She also commits lude acts on herself for her friend kingdong aka bernie aka thousands of accounts all which harbor most of the Steem stake. Everyone knows if they speak the truth to Justine they can kiss it goodbye. So they won't say the truth. I hope you find my post enlightening. And you can follow the link in the account discription to see the smoking gun, which she has since deleted from one of her many vile lude posts under her thescarletletter Steem alt account.
Enjoy!
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Yep go for witness it may help your proposal as well
I want to vote you as a witness and I think you should do now
You have many with you and put a direct link for your witness on Steemworld.
I will also promote you if you become a witness when you are ready for it
Thank you!
👍🙂
Do what you have to do to make ends meet. If you set up a Witness server, I'll support it. If you close the app and make it available only for subscribers, I'll support it, too.
Thanks for all of your hard work, it's highly appreciated. 😊
You fucking suck.
Brelent I am kissing it
This comment says a lot about the hypocrisy of the so-called spam cleaning heros on this site. Notice how many big wallets have scrolled past this comment leaving it at $3 after two hours with no downvotes.
naw didn't notice. i did notice you complaining without taking action yourself :)
!dramatoken
Such drama, you've earned a DRAMA!
To view or trade
DRAMAgo to steem-engine.com.Are you sure about that? Read your statement again and consider that "taking action" could mean something different than voting with a stake that doesn't have value. Just FYI, any rewards you might expect from my comment are sniped at the 12-hour mark by spaminator thugs and crew.
this (you fucking suck) comment was written by justineh not by Bernie FYI
Not many folks can hoe that row.
!dramatoken
You've got
DRAMA!To view or trade
DRAMAgo to steem-engine.com.I vote for your posts, I vote for your proposal and I will probably vote for your witness.
I don't agree with removing my vote from the return proposal but I understand you wanting #clayop to remove his vote for it.
I know at the moment, clayop is really excited about that small proposal for a powerdown change which is #1. Maybe his votes are just temporary to make it stand out?
Perhaps you can encourage him of the importance of Steemworld for koreans and his other interests, too.
Resteemed it sir
I agree that the Return Proposal is too high. What's the point of the SPS if barely anything gets funded?
Good question. As all Steemians lost 10% of their voting value for posts in order to have a functioning SPS, I think it should be asked more often.
It's call saving money for the future and that's what stakeholders have decided to vote on.
But there's no reason to think that this trend won't continue, meaning the unused funds will just get bigger and bigger. That's funds taken from the reward pool at the last HF. Those funds need to be disbursed, so as to add value to the community commensurate with the value taken away at the last HF.
By the way, is there a way to see the amount of unused funds in the SPS?
There are currently 143,032.368 SBD in the pot. So there are now over 1430 SBD per day available, of which only 310 SBD are being used daily (and it keeps growing, because 10% of the rewards pool automatically goes into the fund).
You can also see this on https://steemworld.org/proposals
The balance is in the account @steem.dao but only a maximum of 1% can be paid out per day.
The budget is a maximum, not a guarantee. If stakeholders don't think that available proposals add more value than their costs, stakeholders are correct in not funding them. There is no guarantee there will always be more worthwhile proposals than budget. One option (which was discussed when SPS was created) is a burn proposal, but I don't think we are there yet; the funds accumulated are still reasonable and could be used for future worthy proposals, should they be made.
I'm not voting for it because AFAIK it's made no commitment to open-sourcing.
THIS!
If the project was open source I'd vote it. I believe @blocktrades committed to voting for it as an open source project as well. The whole story isn't being told here. If you want to draw community funds, make your project open source.
You can already download a local version. That is the full source. Download it, inspect it.
He is working on a github release which will be licensed 'open source', as stated in the proposal, that will be spring next year. I have no reason to not trust him.
No it isn't, as I explained elsewhere.
People like you are the ones who complain about closed source applications, when they are using Windows, Adobe, Office, etc. and their children also work with closed software.
Hypocrites, false, liars and opportunists
What are you even on about? Those closed source applications are for profit endeavors and not asking to be community funded.
Sehr schade, traurig, traurig. Berg- und Talfahrt. Ich hoffe nur, dein Post veranlasst die Propostal-Unterstützer die Sache mehr im Auge zu behalten und du bist bald wieder "drin".
You have raised the correct issue of SPC. I like the way.
I like most the steemworld.org tool. It is nice and gives details inside under-stable view in steem blockchain.
Hope you will continue this service.
These distributive things are momentary and not continue in long run. Your raised question for 10% fund in correct. Why not you get something from it, when you can developed /develop good app. Keep doing ....
Https://Steemworld.com is and has been for a long time now one of my favorite tools on Steem. I’m not certain what this thread has to do with Steempeak, I’m a big fan of Steempeak as well. Proposal this, SPS that, look I’ll just be real, I don’t understand that language. If you run a witness, @steemchiller, I will vote for it and, so long as Steemworld is available, it will be my first choice.
What I do understand, however, is the exact.same.names and the exact.same.wallets still bump each other’s garbage to the top while censoring legitimate concerns the community is genuinely interested in reading—some things never change. There’s no hardfork cure for that.
Thank you for all of your hard work @steemchiller.
Thanks for your input! I hope you visit steemworld
.com.org ;)How many people vote for proposals and the return proposal?
This early, i bet some rshares could come your way.
I bet we get this fixed.
I just asked myself the same question, the answer is:
533 Votes for Return Propostal
2354 Votes for SteemWorld Support
Places 1-3:
441 for Nr. 1 HF Proposal
118 for Nr. 2 Dev Portal Documentation
300 for Nr. 3 Testing reviewing...
Interesting numbers!
Lol, the few forcing the many, again.
It's our money, and we need it now!
We are rich, our opinions are better than yours.
I will be glad when the inflation spreads the influence farther.
Those are not people they are accounts. People can have multiple accounts.
Amount of SP voting is what matters.
Hey, @steemchiller.
I really figured that this would be a slam dunk no brainer.
But then, I'm thinking about the every day STEEM user, the one who's interested in knowing what they're doing statistically, and maybe even others, and to do with it with ease of use.
I'm also thinking about those who appreciate all of the one stop shopping that has been packed into Steemworld without much compensation over the last several months, and certainly since the bear market began. I mean, there's so much that can be done now, and there's even more coming.
I was also thinking that once you were funded, you would stay funded. I didn't know that it was like being a witness where one big account could vote you in or out, or change where you were in line based on voting on something else.
I mean, I think the Return Proposal is a decent enough idea—kind of wonder why it's not just built in to the SPS in the first place, so that the Return Proposal doesn't need to be there doing whatever it is that it does sitting their approved.
So, maybe keep providing updates on top of the SPS? The whole witness thing seems like it could be more of drain on your funds than a help unless you get voted up high enough which seems to be an issue with your no-brainer Steemworld proposal on the SPS.
Why does everything have to be so dang difficult?
What's the point of doing any of this if you can't be constantly funded for the duration of the project?
I appreciate not wanting to fund unnecessary stuff, or things no one uses. Tons of us use steemworld.org, though, and everyone should.
Anyone who cares about posting, commenting or curating, and many other things STEEM-related, that is. :)
Judging how things are going, it looks like the SPS is only useful to fund the projects that the top whales support.
If that's that case, then I bet the majority of us would like to have our money back and see this SPS nonsense be thrown into the trashcan.
Hey, @trincowski.
I guess that means one always has to be in campaign mode in order to keep up with the votes that others may be getting. It also means that the bar is always being raised, and that uncertainty is the only sure thing. I'm not sure why anyone would want to do anything under those circumstances.
Taking a look at what is currently being funded, while the top three don't last more than four months, I'm not sure what they truly add to STEEM in the long run, other than some folks really want their stake liquid sooner, and others want to pay for documentation.
Number four is returning unused funds back to the SPS, which seems like the SPS should do that automatically, anyway.
I don't know. I thought I was for the SPS, but seeing it in action, it seems to be lacking something.
It's also interesting to notice that the Steemworld proposal has over 10x the votes of the top 3 proposals and yet, it's not going to be funded.
In this system, what 300 rich people want is more important than what 3000 people want... and, in my opinion, that's just dumb.
I understand that Steem is not a Democratic System but it also shouldn't be the Oligarchy it has become. 🤦♂️
Hey, @trincowski.
It probably needs to be a hybrid of the two—stake weight and one account one vote—but even then, who knows. I get the argument against one vote—those who have 100 alt accounts will vote 100 times. Whether or not there's enough of them to overcome 3,000 normal voters, I don't know. My recent looking at the diminishing numbers tells me that it could very well be the case. Stake weighting brings all of those accounts to bear once.
So, if we could handle some kind of know your customer without it intruding on rights, liberties, privacy, sensibilities, whatever—something encrypted, something that just the system can see—I don't know, I'm not a developer—we could solve a lot of this.
So, when the top three are no longer funded, unless people pull their votes, wouldn't Steemchiller move up by default? Wouldn't his proposal be within the bounds, unless something takes it's place? I mean, I know he doesn't want to be sitting around waiting 90-110 days, but at the very least, that's how this will work, right?
Who'd know... your scenario has just played out.
Let's see what happens because at the moment, no Proposal is being funded. 🤣
our money back? Did you make direct donations to @steem.dao ?Total inflation haven't changed, so you're not paying more for this than you were pre HF.
We're all taking a 10% cut to fund... just a couple of projects. It seems to me like the same could easily be achieved with a 1% cut instead.
That s the way it works, and it has been voted through DPoS.
More of the @steem.dao will be used when more projects satisfy the exigence of the stakeholders, it's how it's designed to work.
We're just building another Oligarchy in here, aren't we? 😂
I believe Steem has been working by DPOS since you've joined. What changed? What alternative would you propose?
I'm not a minnow but I m not a whale either, I would love my votes to matter more than they do, but on the other hand, we have to be realistic and realize that there s no other reasonable solution to decision making.
This is just a big experience but I had the thought that the main goal of the Blockchain Technology was to free us from the old, archaic Oligarchich Models that riddle the current economic system.
If we're simply copying them and transposing those Oligarchies to the Blockchain, how are we any better? And what's the point of it all?
It's like we're fighting fire with fire. I don't believe that will achieve anything good.
I see your point, but on the other hand you have to recognize that we can't have a 1 account 1 vote system either, unless we ask everyone to doxx themselves for proving that 1 account = 1 user.
And even then, it would make Steem even less attractive to potential investors, since their investment could be destroyed by users who don't have skin in the game.
No, of course not. Both extremes are bad... we need to compromise and find a balance between both ends. The solution is usually somewhere in the middle.
We need a well thought balance between "One Person, One Vote" and "One Dollar, One Vote"
Hey @steemchiller, your tool deserve any support and I love to chat with you personal on discord about how we may help.
At least a bit of !BEER will be a start.
Your @detlev
View or trade
BEER.Hey @steemchiller, here is a little bit of
BEERfrom @detlev for you. Enjoy it!So if I vote for another project, it will spread out my SP??
Wenn du so nah an der Zahlungsunfähigkeit bist würde ich die empfehlen mehr an Dich selbst zu denken.
Warum nicht alle Möglichkeiten ausschöpfen die Steem allen bietet?
Deine Arbeit an Steemworld ist vorbildlich. Risikostreuung ist der Punkt um den Du dich jetzt vielleicht mehr kümmern solltest.
Es gibt Projekte die laufen entwicklungstechnisch nicht halb so gut, aber bekommen viel Rewards weil sie die Prioritäten auf ökonomischer Seite haben.
Ich finde es absolut legitim das ein verdienter Entwickler wie Du auch einen angemessenen Teil vom Kuchen abbekommt. Nichts ist wertvoller als Fachkräte die eine Sache voranbringen, wer da die Türe zu hält hat was nicht verstanden.
Ich bin ja nur ein kleiner Fisch...
!COFFEEA 5
Hoffen wir das es klappt.
The way things are looking right now, I recommend you post for rewards.
I would also recommend to cooperate with a witness, rather than running a witness node, because that is just another can of worms.
But from what I understand, you do not consider this an option, and prefer to work all on your own.
If you want to stay away from chatrooms and meetups that is fine, but it could help with monetization/funding of your projects. Perhaps you need to team up for this too; You could have a far worse product, if you had better marketing/networking, you would make more from it, still.
And lastly: times are tough for steem right now. The price graph looks terrible. When we had funds to distribute, we gave them to all sorts of disloyal golddiggers and now that good projects form, we lack the funds to support those.
Personally, I would recommend you get a different job and to not rely on steem to pay your monthly bills. I wish it was different, but it would seem the most 'grounded' approach to me.
Komm doch mal in den Discord :(
I need to think about all this for some time. As they now even begin to flag developers like me on here, I'm currently not sure, if this is still the place where I want to be. I'm glad that a missing slice of the puzzle has revealed itself today though (I guess you know what I mean).
Forcing developers to open source everything in the way it happens here made me thinking. This has nothing to do with freedom and pushing creative energy. Many professional game developers would never make their games open source, because of security/manipulation reasons, so they also won't be able to use the SPS for funding. Always the same few mighty blockades at the top.
To me it looks like I'm selling years of work for 77 SBD a day to those people, only to get the proposal funded. Maybe I will stop the proposal and continue to work freely on SteemWorld again.
Need some rest now...
Nope, no one is forced to open source anything. The expectation of many stakeholders is that if you want US to pay you to develop it, we want to see open source.
If you want to fund your own development or raise capital from your own investors like any other startup, you can do whatever you want.
EDIT: upvoted parent for visibility
As far as I know not stake holders are paying here but rewards for the projects are taken from the rewards pool. It's true that stakeholders distribute the funds by their votes ...
Reward pools are funded by inflation, which is a tax on stakeholders. It doesn't just appear magically at no cost to anyone.
It is a tax on all users. Especially also now content creators 'pay' with lower post rewards - so they also 'fund' the SPS.
I don't say you are wrong, but inflation which hits everybody is not the same as if a view stakeholders would fund any project directly from their own money.
And: inflation impacts you anyway, if you vote for any proposal or not.
No it is not. If you have literally no STEEM or SP (which is possible, since zero SP accounts now get some RC allowance), neither the value of your stake nor your share of ownership of the total supply declines as a result of inflation.
For everyone else, the effect is proportional. Someone with 1000x more stake is paying 1000x more.
No, stakeholders pay all content rewards via inflation too. Content creators receive content rewards. There is a huge difference. What happened with the enacting of SPS was that a share of inflation that stakeholders pay to content rewards was shifted to SPS. Either way it is still stakeholders paying it.
Sure, but I'm absolutely going to vote in a manner that I believe spends (or does not immediately spend) those inflationary rewards in the manner that gets stakeholders the best value for the cost. If i lose the vote, fair enough, I can sell my stake or accept the disagreement and recognize that you win some and lose some.
Of course I mean everybody else. :)
But there are also 1000 x more small accounts than big ones, which all also pay the inflation - which is altogether quite a lot. Of course we can also call them 'stakeholders', too, but I guess you had big stakeholders in mind when you wrote that stakeholders pay the inflation.
And of course you have a higher risk the higher your stake is, but also a higher chance to make profit, if the STEEM price rises (that's why you originally invested money, I guess).
Yes, that's why I put 'pay' in quotation marks. Content creator don't literally pay, but also contribute to the SPS by passing on a part of their possible rewards.
As (at least in in my opinion) 'content' is the unique feature of STEEM compared to other crypto currencies/blockchains and thus may become an important factor of a future increasing value of STEEM, I value time and effort, content creators invest in the platform as much as the money stakeholders invest.
Actually, I am getting maybe somwhat off topic here, but sometimes my impression is that (big) stakeholders tend to underestimate the value of 'normal little' users for the platform and the success of the blockchain.
In your case I am absolutely convinced of that!
And even if my text above may lead to a different impression, I am very thankful that people like you invested lots of money!
However, did you read for example the comments of z8teyb289qav9z (we all know who he is) in this post: "You fucking suck."? No constructive criticism, no thoughtful weighting of words, just flags and insults. Unfortunately, not all big stakeholders act as responsible with their power as you do.
Not at all. All stakeholders pay proportionately, and I never envisioned otherwise.
True enough. Everyone gets a vote, for better or worse.
You are making this unnecessarily hard for your supporters.
'I am not sure ... flagging developer like me ... forcing open source ... '
That is how girls talk.
You want more money for your work and I support that, but please be more straightforward and do not go that passive aggressive route. If the proposal does not get approved, you will need to find other methods and being emotional will only alienate those who want to help you and will not serve you well.
That attitude is what made you a target for the bully in the first place.
I only supported the proposal, after I found the open source part in it, btw. Other than that, I am just here fighting for the underdog. Nothing personal. If you want to discuss the matter further, I still recommend Discord.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkPGlVqqEP0
Yes, you are right. This shit is making me go crazy. I just want to continue to work on SteemWorld now and I definitely need more distance to all the drama. I lost at least one day through all this and slept very badly, so it's really time to come back to my real self now.
Yes back to your real self. Some haven’t slept in years. You did work on steemworld before now.
I have to agree with that, it's a good advice.
Oh das ist aber echt nicht schön.
Resteemed :-) und pinned post on our FB group.
I ve always tried to support your project through votes and at one point direct donation but I won't support your SPS, mainly for 2 reasons:
If you would just make the project opensource and show what you re actually doing with the SPS funds, plenty of people will vote for your projects.
Cheers!
People like you are the ones who complain about closed source applications, when they are using Windows, Adobe, Office, etc. and their children also work with closed software.
Hypocrites, false, liars and opportunists
Using and paying to develop are two different things. Microsoft and Adobe don't apply to Steem stakeholders for funding.
I believe @steemchiller was reporting weekly on progress long before the SPS and perhaps since the proposal got in, his time has been spent on development over progress reports?
Agreed though, both of the points you make should help.
Part of the proposal is to open source the whole thing. Perhaps he should have put that in the title.
Making it opensource it s not a task per se, he can do it first and will get more support.
You can download the source code: https://steemworld.org/download
So he only needs to publish it with a license attached to it, it seems.
I would assume he is only working on the documentation and the technicalities.
Anyways, the project is not closed source and the proposal includes open sourcing steemworld and that is the opposite of what you claimed above.
upvoting since i dont think your comment should be hidden ...
This is not opensource code, its the same obfuscated code that I can find on my console while on steemworld.
https://unminify.com/
Nop, wont make it human readable.
Yeah, looking at it again now ...
That's not really readable ...
Still, open source was part of the proposal and why I agreed to it, after reading it carefully.
That's your choice and I respect it.
The correct defintion is source code is the preferred version for developing the project, not anything that humans can read. I can read some machine code reasonably well, but that does not make it source code.
Ha ! You were right until you called that machine code.
To clarify I didn't mean this obfuscated javascript is machine code. I was referring to actual machine code (x86 hex dump for example) and pointing out that it is possible for some people to read it. But it usually (with rare exception) is not the preferred version for developing and maintaining the program, therefore not source code.
I can read the proposal. It clearly says 'open source'.
The part about the local version was wrong, I apologize. My main point is still valid.
It is absolutely debatable whether planning to open source in several months with no true commitment or recourse is good enough. By which I mean people can legitimately disagree. I prefer to see funding going to projects that are currently open source and have transparent and open development fully visible in github (or similar). That is just my opinion and voting preference of course. Others see it differently.
They may disagree, but the original comment implies the project was closed source:
That makes no sense when the proposal includes open sourcing it.
Same as with @transisto's and @frederikaa's comments.
It is closed source NOW, and I do not support funding it NOW. If and when it may become open source, I will consider supporting funding it.
I don't support funding based on distant future promises with no clear milestones, visible process, and no recourse if the promises aren't satisified. That applies equally to promises of open sourcing as anything else.
That's great. I did not reply to YOU, though.
They did not even read the proposal, is what I am saying,
You did reply to me. In any case, we may be misunderstanding each other. I'm happy to move on.
How about a great track record instead of milestones ?
What difference does it make if it is open source now or in 3 months ?
I am happy to move on.
Can we not please cut this short to where you admit you did not really read the full proposal and missed the (granted: small) paragraph, where he promises open sourcing steemworld as well ?
Why promising it when it takes minutes to do it?
In any case, I m not forcing him to do anything, I just give my personal opinion regarding what he should do to get funded again. It just happens that I m not the only one thinking that way.
You should either make Steemworld open-sourced or find your own sustainable business model for your project.
Then you will also have my votes on your posts and proposals.
Edit: Comment upvoted at 5 seconds for visibility, meaning all rewards are returned to the pool.
You can already download a local version. That is the full source. Download it, inspect it.
He is working on a github release which will be licensed 'open source', as stated in the proposal, that will be spring next year. I have no reason to not trust him.
It is minified and obscured last time I looked.
https://unminify.com/
On mobile but usually you are still stuck with poorly named functions and variables making it a nightmare to work with.
It looks ok to me, and the confusing function names could also pop up in 'well documented' code :)
Bottom line: the source is accessible.
I was not even aware it was minified like this, though. It will be on github soon under what I understand is an open source license - that was my main point.
edit: well, I looked at it again and it is not readable. Still, I have no reason to doubt it will be open sourced soon.
I might be wrong, but maybe interest on stake escaped controversy so far... None of the other destinations of inflation.
How old is SPS? Two and a half months?
One thing is clear to me and the signal was given from SteemFest: code must be open source to receive funding from SPS.
The two projects which I use should make this a priority: becoming open source. Rather than fighting each other. When people are frustrated they say things they wish they didn't. And some are very good at pushing the right buttons to provoke such reactions.
At the same time, becoming open source doesn't happen over night. If there is a clear track record of improvements (and there is) and a commitment to make the code open source by a reasonable deadline, I don't see why SPS funding shouldn't continue (in the case of SteemWorld proposal) and start (in the case of SteemPeak proposal).
Very well said! 👍🏼👌🏼
If you want my advice,
Do Power Down and leave this platform, it is lost.
They speak open source, use Windows, Office and Adobe xD
They talk about the stock market and don't know how to organize their own business so that it thrives, not to mention the money they have stolen and rob investors
They talk about social network and this is not a social network, nor is it similar, it is rather a badly programmed forum
FaceBook LIBRA will eat them with chips and ketchup
The organization and team of this project has clearly demonstrated opportunism, the dates are clear
Since they cannot sustain themselves, they try to blame others for their incompetence.
All this is clearly seen in the price of STEEM, no investor today and that is serious, who is asked about this platform will say that it is a good platform, company or investment in the short or long term
Seriously, leave this miserable site
That sounds really depressive and pessimistic, but perhaps you're almost right. But what about to fork out the bad guys?
Steemit inc is a privately held company. You might think these are users with a ton of coin but you are mistaken. These decisions are being made by Stinc. You can make as many photo copies of Steemit as you want, but the currency is still STEEM. When people buy Steem with Bitcoin/ETH that Bitcoin/ETH gets transferred to STINC in exchange for Steem.
Bernie is STINC, and Justine is as well.
Reposted as it will be hidden.
You have single handedly made the most user friendly Steem Blockchain tool known to Steemit. It is easy to use, simple, and makes understanding all things Steem related simplified for the average joe Steem user.
The fact that you have done this on your own is absolutely amazing. You Sir have done better than even the Steem devs themselves, in creating something that will make using the blockchain user friendly. This is something that should be respected, and revered. Not frowned upon.
So you have applied for support. And if this platform had been democratic, or unbias in any way giving you funding would be a no brainer. But I am going to tell you something no one else is willing to admit, in fear of losing their accounts. The powers that be want to bring the death of Steem, as both a currency, and as a platform. They are working towards bankruptcy and have done everything they can to conceal this from the average users.. so as to not collapse the currency before they complete their financial extractions in full. I was at Steemfest4 and can assure you of this.
They will not be funding you sir. What you have given Steemians is so well loved by them your application has become oxygen to the Steem ecosystem.
Aside from that your application makes it simple for people to not only view their own transactions, but to also easily view the transactions of others. eg. the hundreds of thousands being moved by Steemit Inc. owned accounts etc.
They do not want people to see what is really happening behind the curtain, much less aid by means of financial support in helping people to do so.
The average joe has no idea how to explore the blockchain in such a way. You know this, I know this, and they know this. Even though we know they will step in and insist Steemd still exists etc.
Further to that as can be seen in a multitude of comments going back years now, Justine pushes Bernie's agenda in the name of community. The same man who death threats people, and harasses women and children sexually, as well as generalized harassment that went on hourly for years now under a plethora of his accounts.
She will tell you this turtle account has harassed her and women. I will tell you this, people with shared access to this account have held a mirror up to her, as well as Bernies behavior and gone after her hypocrisy, and that of those in her circle jerk.
She certainly doesn't like people saying things about her that are all true and on the blockchain, such as the fact that she shares vulgar pornographic nudes, which includes lude acts on herself for 'kingdong' aka Bernie, under her thescarletletter account (please view the savetheturtles blog post for more info), as well as other alts she has. She will call pointing this truth out harassing, but she has no problem with Bernie her buddy wishing death on people, harassing women and children with vile fithly hourly messages, not one time did she ever stand against it, yet she speaks so much of the work she does for the community. She is a vile, hateful, horrid person. She absolutely exudes evil in every capacity. You know what they say, "those who yell the loudest", well that explains her.
https://www.someecards.com/usercards/viewcard/MjAxNC1lMmFmYjRmZTdiYzkxNmNl/
It can be noted that within less than 2 hours of her ignorant comment to you in the name of community, "Bernie" appears with more vulgar harassing comments here, but this time for you in the same post, along with the nasty gif to boot. It is well known that Justine is his _ _ _ K buddy, as well as his mouth piece. She also shares the passwords to his main accounts. This is why no one will dare go against anything she says. Not because she is right, but because they know full stop that if they speak out against her, she will sick Bernie on you like sicking a dog on someone. And after such people can kiss their accounts goodbye.
A man in this very string of comments was already told to "know his place" merely for kindly speaking his truth to Justine.
This is a DICKatorship, and Justine is the Dick. She is a narcissist and will view this as a compliment. I assure you Justine this is not a compliment. People see you for what you are. You are a nasty person. People can't stand you are only bow to your bullshit because they know you sick Bernie on them, and are in fear of losing their accounts. Gross. slow clap
Anyone can go look at Bernies post which states "If you want free speech go write in a diary", and she is a top voted by Bernie comment full heartedly agreeing with the notion of not having free speech. She sure likes having her free speech though doesn't she.
When you are F_ _ _ ing the top dog it is easy to have free speech.
This place is a joke. And Justine and Bernie are the clowns.
Clearly you are a man of vast talent. And you are not given the support you deserve by Steemit Inc. Nor will you ever get it. Certainly not now with bankruptcy on the horizon.
My sincere suggestion to you is that you invest your time with another project elsewhere. They are unworthy of your application. Mind you the loss of Steem World will further suffocate the platform. Which is exactly what their intention is over all.
I wish you all of the best in your future endeavours.
Peace be with you.
At Fundition we really appreciate what Steemworld is bringing to steem. It is by far the best explorer for Steem and we would like to invite you to start a campaign on our platform to gather more support to achieve your goals.
Best regards,
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I agree that the return proposal is too high atm.
However, I also think you should start demanding small, rather cosmetic, fees for certain services of your app, like conversions, steem engine toke claiming/staking etc. They can even be too small to really feel them, but would probably add up to a not insignificant sum.
Do you run any statistics on what operations are triggered how often via you app?
No, I don't run any statistics.
Thanks, I like the idea, but it would only be possible for operations that require an active key. The question is, if people would than still use SteemWorld for those features. I will keep your idea in mind.
Ich unterstütze diese Idee ;)
Keep going man. Sadly you wont be able to rely on the SPS, like every other proposal, and if you need to peruse (multiple) other methods to make ends meet I'm confident you'll get support.
I think becoming open source will help and perhaps making that a priority above new features is the best plan for now.
Have a good weekend.
The SPS is just about influence and power in action.
You want to make living from steemworld but maybe.. possibly.. it is just not possible ith this kind of project?
it sucks and i hope you get funded again.
i think we need % votes for SPS.
Because Return Proposal is like a downvote for other project. But maybe you only want to vote 50% for return and 100% for a project.
This should be changed in the future. And solve the barrier for devs.
The system should be efficent in the future.
Imagine if 100 devs would build amazing Stuff. Without % Vote it will never happen.
I agree with % votes on SPS and I'm pretty sure the developers agree as it was mentioned at Steemfest as something they see the need for.
Hi @steemchiller, thank you for your post and for letting the people know about what is behind "Steemworld" happens. In my opinion, you created amazing program that is used by more than 90% of users of Steem community because of few features:
It reflects democracy and transparency:
You can see all the action that every user is doing: Upvoting, commenting, sel-upvoting. That feature is used by many curation communities to assess user and decided if he is fair and if he needs to be supported.
You can see any users no matter if it is the one with no Steem Power or any of "whales" Stakeholders
There is a good statistic data, you see your new followers, mentioning, that helps you to save time to search for those info.
Developing a program, it is your baby and I can imagine that you want to have your rights for it. I know from my son who is also fan of writing computer programs, he is very aware how easy it is one you showed a program that you developed in internet that could be immediately used and own by someone else who can claim that it was him who created it.
I see that there is a comment of @fundation, that is another opportunity to get financial support of your project.
Another option, if you really decide to go for witness you have my Vote and of my hubby!
There are many people who love your program and we appreciate it. I think even if you decide to charge some amount of Steem for using it, I bet many people will go for that!
Please share your ideas if there is anything we can help you to keep going with your program, we will support you!
No, the problem is that many of the proposals are not that compelling, for example, not open source. There are a number of stakeholders who believe that most work paid for by SPS should be open source to ensure that Steem receives full benefit from the expenditure.
It is not a hard and fast rule (nothing is; everything is up to voters) but it is the number one reason I've heard for why some proposals aren't supported, including yours.
My proposal received more votes than any other and in terms of voted SP it is still within the top positions. So it's not a problem related to lack of support. As I stated, the Return-Proposal was moved 3.6 M SP up (over night by one single voter, a top witness), so that mine does no longer receive funds.
That's the nature of voting. There is more stake in favor of not funding your proposal than funding it. The solution is to make your proposal more compelling.
It is absolutely intended that people may increase votes on return in order to de-fund undesired proposals, change votes to attempt to reorder proposals in terms of priority, etc. Or even just change one's mind about what is worth funding. The voting is dynamic.
If we would have more big stakeholders, I would fully agree, but as it is now, I would change that statement to 'That's the nature of top witnesses voting' :)
There is more than enough in the pot already to fund more proposals and it keeps growing quite well. If those SBD are not being used for projects, I'm asking myself why we don't build kind of an automated 'burn STEEM machine' to at least support the price a bit in the meantime.
I don't think that there will appear many more interesting/expensive proposals any time soon, so in my opinion, with the given funding barrier, the pot will just keep growing without any relevant benefits for us.
We do have a lot of big stakeholders. Out of 16 million SP votes on return, only the top 3 votes are over 1 million, and those total about 6 million. The majority of the votes are from a large number of smaller accounts.
Even more to the point, setting aside Steemit Inc, there is probably something like 150 million SP and another 100 million STEEM which could potentially power up. There is an enormous amount of additional stake which could vote, far, far more than return.
In other words, make your proposal more compelling.
There is no inherent benefit from solely from spending money. If stakeholders aren't convinced that the benefits are worth the costs, we are better off not spending it and avoiding even more Steem (whether in the form of STEEM or SBD) flooding the market and driving the price down.
If the proposals are compelling I have no reluctance to support them, but if they aren't, then I'd rather take the benefit in lower inflation.
I'm all in favor of that in fact that's why I run @burnpost and vote for it. That being said, keeping the funds in the SPS treasury has similar benefit (not being sold on any market), plus a bit more flexibility to fund compelling future proposals, should they be made. For example, at Steemfest a lot of people noted the lack of good proposals for marketing and other community building. I agree and I will look for these proposals to support. But I still won't support them if the proposal itself isn't strong.
Ok, thanks for your enlightening answers and for upvoting my hidden comments. I'm currently not sure, which way to choose now, but I will do my best to find one that works for me.
Even if there is not much new to discover in SteemWorld currently, I made good progress so far and I'm sure that, when I'm done with the things that are waiting in the pipeline, there will be more investors convinced about the value of my work.
Since I'm a purely creative coder, I'm having a hard time with presenting planned features. Most of the SteemWorld has been built intuitively in a creative flow without much planning and this is how I function best.
Good Job Guys keep up the good Work!
Do I need to mention that I was able to power up more STEEM in the last few weeks than ever before and I now need to think about starting a Powerdown, because I don't know, if I will receive enough rewards to make it through the next month?
This feeling is what many big stakeholders just don't know, because they do always have some funds for months laying around. In my heart it feels like being dead from one moment to the other while working as usual on the same things as before.
As I stated earlier in a comment:
Don't get me wrong, I do like the SPS and it would work perfectly for many of us. As the whole world of Steem lost 10% of their vote's value with the last HF to enable having a stable SPS fund, it should be relatively easy to grasp that smaller projects should also have a chance to get funded. There is enough in the SPS pot, so why not using as much as possible to get more things done at the same time?
To make it clear
If you have voted for @gtg's Return Proposal, you are currently preventing me from being able to continue my developments for Steem.
Should I take it from the Posting Rewards Pool or the SPS Fund or should I start a witness node? You decide.
Details about my recent developments will be published soon.
Bin gespannt, wie es weitergeht! Du hälst uns auf den Laufenden. LG Michael
!invest_vote
@mima2606 denkt du hast ein Vote durch @investinthefutur verdient
You have single handedly made the most user friendly Steem Blockchain tool known to Steemit. It is easy to use, simple, and makes understanding all things Steem related simplified for the average joe Steem user.
The fact that you have done this on your own is absolutely amazing. You Sir have done better than even the Steem devs themselves, in creating something that will make using the blockchain user friendly. This is something that should be respected, and revered. Not frowned upon.
So you have applied for support. And if this platform had been democratic, or unbias in any way giving you funding would be a no brainer. But I am going to tell you something no one else is willing to admit, in fear of losing their accounts. The powers that be want to bring the death of Steem, as both a currency, and as a platform. They are working towards bankruptcy and have done everything they can to conceal this from the average users.. so as to not collapse the currency before they complete their financial extractions in full. I was at Steemfest4 and can assure you of this.
They will not be funding you sir. What you have given Steemians is so well loved by them your application has become oxygen to the Steem ecosystem.
Aside from that your application makes it simple for people to not only view their own transactions, but to also easily view the transactions of others. eg. the hundreds of thousands being moved by Steemit Inc. owned accounts etc.
They do not want people to see what is really happening behind the curtain, much less aid by means of financial support in helping people to do so.
The average joe has no idea how to explore the blockchain in such a way. You know this, I know this, and they know this. Even though we know they will step in and insist Steemd still exists etc.
Further to that as can be seen in a multitude of comments going back years now, Justine pushes Bernie's agenda in the name of community. The same man who death threats people, and harasses women and children sexually, as well as generalized harassment that went on hourly for years now under a plethora of his accounts.
She will tell you this turtle account has harassed her and women. I will tell you this, people with shared access to this account have held a mirror up to her, as well as Bernies behavior and gone after her hypocrisy, and that of those in her circle jerk.
She certainly doesn't like people saying things about her that are all true and on the blockchain, such as the fact that she shares vulgar pornographic nudes, which includes lude acts on herself for 'kingdong' aka Bernie, under her thescarletletter account (please view the savetheturtles blog post for more info), as well as other alts she has. She will call pointing this truth out harassing, but she has no problem with Bernie her buddy wishing death on people, harassing women and children with vile fithly hourly messages, not one time did she ever stand against it, yet she speaks so much of the work she does for the community. She is a vile, hateful, horrid person. She absolutely exudes evil in every capacity. You know what they say, "those who yell the loudest", well that explains her.
https://www.someecards.com/usercards/viewcard/MjAxNC1lMmFmYjRmZTdiYzkxNmNl/
It can be noted that within less than 2 hours of her ignorant comment to you in the name of community, "Bernie" appears with more vulgar harassing comments here, but this time for you in the same post, along with the nasty gif to boot. It is well known that Justine is his _ _ _ K buddy, as well as his mouth piece. She also shares the passwords to his main accounts. This is why no one will dare go against anything she says. Not because she is right, but because they know full stop that if they speak out against her, she will sick Bernie on you like sicking a dog on someone. And after such people can kiss their accounts goodbye.
A man in this very string of comments was already told to "know his place" merely for kindly speaking his truth to Justine.
This is a DICKatorship, and Justine is the Dick. She is a narcissist and will view this as a compliment. I assure you Justine this is not a compliment. People see you for what you are. You are a nasty person. People can't stand you are only bow to your bullshit because they know you sick Bernie on them, and are in fear of losing their accounts. Gross. slow clap
Anyone can go look at Bernies post which states "If you want free speech go write in a diary", and she is a top voted by Bernie comment full heartedly agreeing with the notion of not having free speech. She sure likes having her free speech though doesn't she.
When you are F_ _ _ ing the top dog it is easy to have free speech.
This place is a joke. And Justine and Bernie are the clowns.
Clearly you are a man of vast talent. And you are not given the support you deserve by Steemit Inc. Nor will you ever get it. Certainly not now with bankruptcy on the horizon.
My sincere suggestion to you is that you invest your time with another project elsewhere. They are unworthy of your application. Mind you the loss of Steem World will further suffocate the platform. Which is exactly what their intention is over all.
I wish you all of the best in your future endeavours.
Peace be with you.
Congratulations @steemchiller!
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Heyho :)
Hab mal @freezepeach informiert um deinen Post und deine Kommentare von den Flags zu heilen.. :)
I might sound like a broken record:
You Should Start A Witness Node
Making few project updates or anything you like would also allow us to support you with votes. You have a very good chance getting into the Top 20. So please start a witness node.
Maybe stakeholders don’t want to take on the responsibilities of these so-called “consequences.”
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You fucking suck.
an image of Justine "sucking" GROSS
Keep your chin up mate your doing a great job.
@steemchiller , I need some help. Could not find any other way to connect to you, so writing it here. I am creating an account from https://steemworld.org/, I generate the keys , but then when I use Steem Connect, it says the URL is invalid. Can you please assist ?
Please use Steem Keychain instead or enter the key directly. SteemConnect seems not to work for that operation.
Steem Keychain is also not working, I just go and say Use Keychain, but then nothing happens. Finally I gave the active key directly and it worked, but I think, it would be best to have it worked through Steemconnect.
Ok, I will check it with KeyChain in the coming days. Last time I tested it, it worked without any issues. Did you use a Chromium based browser like Chrome/Brave or Firefox?
I used chrome.
I just created two accounts using KeyChain without any issues, one in Firefox and one in Chrome.
Do you use the latest KeyChain version? Maybe your browser is running an outdated version (in older versions the
create_claimed_accountoperation wasn't implemented yet).Did you activate the KeyChain extension after you visited SteemWorld? Currently a page refresh is required for the extension to hook into the SteemWorld DOM.
Well, I have not gone and checked on latest version of KeyChain, also I did not activate after I visited Steemworld. I will give them a try and let you know in this thread.
Ok, let me know, if it helps.
Addition to my second point:
What I mean is that, the extension should be active before you visit SteemWorld not the other way ;)