LOL <3

the mark of the beast I knew it, shes transforming

lol, what a coincident 😄

I really wish I could do/say more, but I'm dead tired. Just read @vandeberg resigned from Steemit, Inc., which is both commendable and very sad sad news for all of us. I hope we can somehow get #decentralized again, but we'll have to be quick and decisive in the next few days.

Thanks for stopping by :-)

You realize you copy/paste that comment on a post that's exactly about that right? Not useful.

Exactly - not many users do and sometimes it's because you don't know why/what to vote on, but for now it's very basic: focus all our votes on those with a small chance of ending up in the top 20 and we can maaaaaybe get somewhere. Thanks for helping inform others of this option we have :-)

:D I laughed when I saw the number! I didn't dare editing the post after that, lol! Thanks for reading, and I hope today we make some history by taking back at least 1 or 2 witness spots <3 Tell everyone you know - every vote counts :-)

<3 Exactly. I hope we'll make some more noise today.

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Yes - and we're closing the gap between our and his witnesses pretty fast!

Thanks for the !BEER and the hug! :D

Thank you!

Good for you! Thanks for helping out :-)

Hahaha - we're in fight mode, all of us!

Cheers!

Hey @felt.buzz, yes, you can! It should have been in my post even, proxy'ing people you trust can be a great way to help out. Thank you!

The gap is closing fast - but I'm not sure Sun is going to accept it, he really seems to want to fuck us over.

Yes, I do hope we can maintain the moral high ground and stay respectful. We really have a HUGE opportunity to show the world we are serious, dedicated people who don't want to lose what we've built over the years. I can see a future where we take back our chain by forking it and simply all moving towards that new chain. I wish it were different though, but at this point trust has been broken so severely without having anything to fall back on (as we didn't have any prior relationship with Sun).

Hey @steemitcuration, don't worry about 'writing a whole post', we are all worried and involved and it's good to get the opinions out.

I think you missed the point where they tried fuking him over first.

I understand what you mean, and if we only look at what happened 'on the chain' then it might look like 'the witnesses' were the first one to 'attack'. But as I wrote in another comment below my post:

There's a lot of evidence suggesting he was planning something 'hostile' all along. Amongst others: 1) screenshots with announcements that Steem would be made worthless by adding a Steem token on Tron and adding that one to the exchanges instead of our own $STEEM, all these announcements have been removed from the twitter and medium pages, but the screenshots still exist, 2) him ignoring the pressing questions that he said he would give 'the highest priority' during the AMA, these were questions that would have been able to reassure us, but he chose to purposely ignore them, 3) him ignoring many requests to talk to him in calls - witnesses did have ideas on how we could keep the status quo without doing a soft fork, but he chose to ignore these invitations, 4) his recent voting in of Tron Super Representatives, showing he is willing to use his money to get a blockchain to do what he wants, instead of trusting the consensus.

If we take actions 'off the chain' into account as well I'm not so sure if 'we'/the witnesses were the first ones to attack.

But this is certainly not a black&white issue, keep reading and informing yourself, a lot has happened, and there's no easy way to generate an extensive timeline about all of it and find an objective 'truth'.

Cheers.

Actually Sun showed his hand by over riding TRON community voted witnesses using a ninja mine stake first. Our Steem witnesses had to take steps to preserve the status quo of the Steemit ninjamine stake not being used to vote.
I was a bit uncomfortable about it at first but it has flushed out Sun's authoritarian streak. He is the anti-Steem.

Have to agree mainly, even I fully support a lot of the previous Top 20 witness. The Soft Work was made by good intentions but not thought very well. The revenge was to be expected. A sad week - I hardly had time to follow all happenings but not good mood for me on that, still a bit hope that all will turn back into good

HF22.2 was controversial and I wrote posts about what I thought about it. There were two possible routes:

• Justin Sun was planning to take-over Steem anyway and the witnesses therefore were right to temporarily (!) limit some of the actions he could take until we could talk to him. In that case current actions taken by him prove they were right and the measures should maybe even have been more decisive.
• Justin Sun is innocent, was really planning to do 'everything good' we wanted, and never planned to take over Steem in order to grow 'his' Tron. In that case, the decision of the witnesses is the sole reason the current SF22.5 is happening as he felt he had to protect himself.

There's a lot of evidence suggesting he was planning something 'hostile' all along. Amongst others: 1) screenshots with announcements that Steem would be made worthless by adding a Steem token on Tron and adding that one to the exchanges instead of our own $STEEM, all these announcements have been removed from the twitter and medium pages, but the screenshots still exist, 2) him ignoring the pressing questions that he said he would give 'the highest priority' during the AMA, these were questions that would have been able to reassure us, but he chose to purposely ignore them, 3) him ignoring many requests to talk to him in calls - witnesses did have ideas on how we could keep the status quo without doing a soft fork, but he chose to ignore these invitations, 4) his recent voting in of Tron Super Representatives, showing he is willing to use his money to get a blockchain to do what he wants, instead of trusting the consensus.

So, to answer your question:

But if you call this "hostile takeover" by justinsun, what was HF22.2?

HF22.2 was a protective, temporary (!) and reversible (!) action taken by democratically chosen (!) witnesses to keep the status quo on Steem and find out if Sun would use his stake as it was meant/promised in the past.

I hope I answered your question.