Random Spiel, Mental Health Stigma

If you ask a random stranger about their stance on whether they support measure to promote mental health, you'll probably get a positive response, why yes, I support mental health and I really do. But ask them if they're interested to book an appointment for consult and you'll get a mixed response but a predominant no for an answer.

People involved in the health service industry often report being mentally drained on top of the physical fatigue that comes with the job. And these are populations that need their mental health in check because their psyche can affect how they render care. But in practice, it's rare to get someone in this line of work voluntarily be coming in for consult unless they are acutely distressed or mandated to get some evaluation done.

That's why it's a lip service to say one cares about mental health care but would hesitate at the proposition of booking an appointment. If your initial reaction is to say no cause you ain't going nuts, do understand that not all that seek consult are crazy and some of these people just find themselves in a difficult situation that their mental resources are taxed.

I'm talking about people that are undergoing their grieving process manifesting depression, being depressed and anxious about losing a job, having difficulty adjusting in school or work, poor sleeping patterns, or malingering.

Everyone has problems but we differ in how we deal with those problems. Take for instance this one case of a woman I encountered recently that came in for thoughts of suicide and preoccupation with other morbid thoughts. She presented all the text book signs of a major depressive disorder but putting in more context, to her situation, she recently lost her child due to an accident and has been blaming herself ever since.

The story isn't that rare and most people can at least empathize what it's like to grieve for a loved one. However, each person has their own way of processing and coping through different life events. Most people that grieve don't necessarily get brought in by concerned folks for consult, that much is obvious. That woman is closely monitored and under suicidal precautions with some meds to help her sleep.

Losing a job isn't so bad for most people, but imagine if you're the breadwinner in the family with a lot of bills to pay. One could lose sleep and trigger a series of anxiety symptoms right after that makes them less functional to cope.

The stigma that sticks is that image of a psychotic patient who has a disorganized behavior and having hallucinations. It's granted that we do get those patients in but a lot of times, the cases we also get in high quantities are medico-legal related (violence against women and children), adjustment disorders, and intellectual disabilities.

It just grinds my gears hearing patients would come in depressed due to the lack of social support their folks have for their condition. There's that Filipino mentality to avoid seeking psychiatric consult because folks tend to be in denial about their patient's condition until they start getting violent and disorganized, then they start bringing their loved one in a worse shape. Stories about coming in for consult in secret because they don't want their parents, parents or school to know they got a problem.

It's cases like these that delay treatment and people wait for stuff to get worse before they come in. There are medical conditions that could've had good prognosis early when help was sought after but ended up being poor because of how the stigma prevented them from seeking care early.

Thanks for your time.



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a great post, "the 1st step to solve a problem is to recognize it's existence" n developing & less developed countries psychological problems existence is denied by the vast majority of the society & they prefer to believe n evil spells & evil spirits & it's very common to believe that they should visit a "witcher" or a "clerk" that has a supernatural/magical power to fix those "supernatural/magical" problems, n a developed country that way of thinking is very marginal or nearly extinct since at least 6-7 decades ago -so today they will find that funny or kind of a joke & make no sense, while n a "developing & less developed country" it's logical and it does make sense. that's a major issue that hinder these societies & these countries from developing & progressing at a much faster base & that's because psychological problems usually lower creativity & productivity & increase violence within societies & countries "criminals were born as ordinary people & childhood or adulthood psychological problems play a role n their future wrong decisions", & without admitting the existence of these problems things will stay the way they are. sorry for the woman u mentioned- usually those who r more spiritual, more connected with nature, have strong family & friends ties ,with strong love for a hobby/interest/job, can heal from such difficult times faster. the subject of those working n that field seeking consultancy as "patients" is an interesting subject. the story of "medical conditions that could've had good prognosis early but ended up being poor because of how the stigma prevented them from seeking care early" is sad & very true & common. finally -great post, well done & have a good day.

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Religious and mystical themes are quite common here when talking about delusions but it's hard to make a case especially for those functional in society. If they claim to see apparitions because it's part of their culture, it's hard to dispute, only when the behavior becomes a threat to society do cases get brought in to mental institutions.

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Losing a job isn't so bad for most people, but imagine if you're the breadwinner in the family with a lot of bills to pay. One could lose sleep and trigger a series of anxiety symptoms right after that makes them less functional to cope.

It depends of the country, some of them have a nice support for unemployment.

There's that Filipino mentality to avoid seeking psychiatric consult because folks tend to be in denial about their patient's condition until they start getting violent and disorganized, then they start bringing their loved one in a worse shape.

Now that I can't talk with you about cancer anymore, ehhehe what are your thoughts about seeking first regular psychotherapy first? I am a lay in the pipeline, but even through a psychotherapy treatment, the patient should try to seek a regular therapy to try to untangle some problems that the drugs will just help to keep things controlled, but they actually don't solve the problems many times.

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I think people should start talking to a licensed guidance counselor or psychologist trained for counseling. Psychology has a lot of subspecs. A psychiatrist would be someone referred to when things are beyond the primary prevention level. I think people overestimate the drugs too much and drugs solve on some cases but not all cases.

For substance abuse like alcohol and meth, one can start detoxification but the follow up would be rehabilitation. For anxiety symptoms, drugs managed the symptoms making the person calm but if that person still exposes themselves in the stressor, you know it's just going to recur and then blame it on the drugs not working. So yeah, not all cases can be solved by drugs. I've had one case where she gets anxiety symptoms while at work but a work from home setup brought her back to being functional and productive.

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Addiction in general needs a deep digging including food addiction or compulsion ! My brother in law has morbid obesity, tried a couple of diets once in a while but always go back to the problem… it is clear that in his case he needs mental health support , many problems not solved with his parents etc… for sure that is the base of his compulsion! But you are right and mental health help is still a stigma in world society not only between filipinos! My parents needed and they took years until they finally went to get help…

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You’re right, mental health is so often neglected. It’s sad to think that people wait until they’re really unwell before seeking help. We need to change the way we talk about mental health and make it easier for everyone to feel comfortable asking for support.

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That is why it's hard for me to say that famous line baka Hindi pa para sa iyo, sa inyo. We never know the pain feel by someone not unless we are in that situation.

A friend of mine lost her 1st child after a lot of physical pain brought by pregnancy. Overcome all of it with the hope to deliver her child safety. Not mentioned the hospital bills that cost hundred of thousands.

She fall into depression too, and when we meet I find it hard how to comfort her. What the exact word to say?

So ayon, niyaya ko na lng kumain. Food is comfort too right?

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Part of the process of grief, it becomes abnormal if it went beyond 6 months. The most you can do it just talk it out and be supportive. But never let your mouth mention "I understand" in a sentence while doing it, that's probably the most untherapeutic line I've came across and it's from a personal point of view. Like... how exactly does one who never went through the same process casually say "I understand"?

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