A simple poll and important survey in Hive and for Hive. Please, give your opinion!
I know that there is a second level platform/community in Hive specialized in conducting questionnaires, surveys and polls called dpoll. Just as I also know that Leofinance for their Threads platform, recently released a test application for the same purpose. However, I find both applications somewhat limited for the type of poll I was planning to do today.
And therefore, in favor that it can be seen by the largest number of users in our ecosystem and that they can participate in it massively, it occurred to me that the most prudent thing to do would be to launch this survey on my own blog in Hive.
Don't get me wrong. I reckon that both official Hive dApps for the creation and formulation of surveys & polls are quite good and are on their way to further evolve. But at the moment, I find them both with very little participation and low engagement from users and in the case of Threads, even with a very limited space in the number of characters available to generate a slightly more complete survey and decent poll. That's the only reason why I decided to create it here through this post.
Alright! well, let's start then!!
Ok, the question is simple and is as follows:
Q.- If all your content in Hive. Posts, comments, etc., have been and are being constantly downvoted and zeroed from a long time in an unjustified way and without any explanation from the responsibles of such behavior. ¿How do you think you should react?
1. I should have to complain publicly and request an explanation from the responsibles of the downvotes immediately in my own blog.
2. I should have to complain publicly and request an explanation from the responsibles of the downvotes immediately in their own blog.
3. I should keep quiet and seek support from some influential users who could counter the downvotes and help me to stop them.
4. I should keep quiet and find a way to get back at them paying them the favor in any painful way within my means.
5. I should write and publish a series of informative posts for the entire ecosystem, publicly denouncing all the abuse and arbitrariness committed by these recidivist offenders.
6. I should simply continue creating my content and posting as always with the same frequency, commenting and interacting everywhere as if nothing is or was happening.
7. None of the options offered above. I will add my own alternative in my comment below.
Well, I hope the quiz isn't too complicated. In fact, it seems to me quite easy to answer. All you have to do is select one of the options presented and write its number in your comment. You can also add something else to your comment to further round off the idea of why you selected that option. ¡I hope you feel encouraged to participate!
And well, being already the eve of May 1, Labor Day. I think I will say goodbye right here, but by leaving you one last thought first so that you can decide faster and you really encourage yourself to participate in this unusual poll. I'll see you later folks! 
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7-8 Not giving a damn and continue filling up my library of experiences... since i don't give a shit about monetary systems in general any ways.
Thanks for your participation brother. Always interesting to have new and different perspectives.
Yep, agreed... Keep me reading Brother! 😎
Reading? ...like my Nodus Tollens or something?
Youtube is "watching" and "listening"...
Just love the view-points of others... may is some kinda part of your Nodus. :grin:
You say that because Mother's Day is celebrated in May? :D
Only in concerts arranged exclusively for voice & beardytron before 9pm. :o)
What's a Mother?? 😬
hehehe, i'm silver-gray enough and since i do not know what a mother is, i can stay up late... :D
It matters not a jot which one of the options you choose as they'll all have the same effect...sweet FA!
I have no idea why you're being consistently downvoted. I find you quite entertaining.
Unfortunately, that's an orotund truth! Nonetheless, I will remain silent for a while longer sitting here, just to see what ¿others? think and 'witnessing' which of the seven options offered is the one that wins the most votes. LoL
Yep, that's The $64,000 Question no one has been able to answer yet. };)
Thank you! I know you are one of those flamboyant specimens with a very sophisticated and heightened sense of humor.
Done, you asked for it. It's not every day you see a post that says downvote here. Hope you weren't just being sarcastic or something. lol
Well, I said downvote the MeMe not the poll fucker!! Hahahaha
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Okay, but next time read more carefully or put your glasses on first, fucker!
number 7. Users should simply hire a Bitcoin hit man and take care of the problem on their own. lol
You can change your vote to 0.
OK, will do that. Hopefully, the downvote trail will copy that change too, I guess this is a good way to test.
It appears to have worked, thank you.
I am curious if you are connected to @helios on Odysee? I follow that project, and would be very happy to see it also here on Hive.
No we're not affiliated with HELIOS on Odysee.
1, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7.
If our blogs are our own personal space, then going into their personal space can be seen as an invasion.
Probably should leave that to those that think transgressing others is a beneficial thing to do.
This makes one an imperative, but crosses two off the todo list.
Three is a given, this is a social platform at the moment, probably should be social.
Four is a personal choice, best left to the imaginations of those transgressing against you.
I'd keep it as an option.
Five is something the ecosystem has been needing for 7 years.
Who are the anonymous sockpuppets?
Who controls them?
Do they actually control 40% of all the coins?
Many questions to be asked, and answered.
To not do six is to let 'them' win.
For seven, I will send you an encrypted memo in the wallet.
Thoroughly fine choices with a great explanation of each one mate. :)
Oh! but the seventh, the seventh option you chose with your great suggestion and detailed encrypted description. That's on another level man. That is already a brilliant Machiavellian lucubration worthy of the Gods of Olympus!!
If you want to know who they are, you should ask Maja (@obsesija), who knows, or knows how to find out. There seems to be ways to find out I am unfamiliar with.
https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@whatsup/the-great-ai-debate-and-hive-watchers#@brianoflondon/re-whatsup-rravc3
She's not posting here anymore, but you might find her on Blurt. I wasn't aware of your recent targeting, because you've not been making much fuss, I guess, but our friendly local Communist alerted me, out of their concern for good people. I reckon you're alright, so came by.
As to your survey, I've tried most of them when I was targeted. I'm not good at being stoic, so ended up whinging, cajoling, and interacting until it stopped. Seems you'd be good at that. I find it difficult to grasp why you'd be so long in the crosshairs. I'll follow you so I can upvote you as I have been @baah. He's mean to me anyway, and back up to positive reputation so he doesn't need me anymore.
I doubt you'll be as mean to me as he is. I'll kinda miss the abuse.
Lolol
Oh! don't worry. No need to ask anything to her. I know she knows some of them pretty closely. But believe me that I know a lot more of those who believe feel safe and secure hovering into their illusory bubble behind an imaginarily hidden and unreachable cloud nine.
Yeah, that thread on @whatsup's post was very revealing and interesting to read. A lot of people dropped their masks in the spot. And the deeper you go into reading and analyzing all the comments there, the more you realize who the spoiled children are and why they are.
Hahaha well, I guess I have my own style of making fuss. And I suspect that intermingled with my quirky sense of humor, much of the raucous dissipates and fly way above people's heads.
Yeah, I am very grateful with the work as spokesman of the injustices of our friendly local Communist. He is an old veteran in these skirmishes, knows many of these pushy farts up close and also knows their weaknesses pretty well. I'm glad he's always on our side. On the side of ethics, principles, eloquence, coherence, synderesis and justice.
Yep I am alright, although obviously I could be better... if the disappointments were less frequent.
Yeah, I am actually stoic. Although I'm afraid I'm already too old to adopt your strategy. ¿Who has time now for that? };)
Oh! haven't you realized yet how a handsome old Cranky Gandalf I am? With my long silver hair and silver beard and with that so serious stare decked out in my seductive pink Hello Kitty robe?
Thank you so much! It's actually a gesture I really appreciate.
Oh yeah, @baah is indeed a mean freak. But only because he has the habit of saying things as they should be said; directly and bluntly. Many times he err more than a battered pencil sharpener in his appreciations. But at least he does it shamelessly, honestly and authentically. What is worth to be thankful for. I am indeed very happy that he has recovered his visibility and thus avoids us the annoyance of having to make an extra click to find out wtf he has said. ;o)
Huy! watchout what you say, that I always can be much more mean than him. But yeah, always with a more hilarious & cryptic sense of humor.
Cheers!!
I thought you were talking about the #2 witness gandalf the gay.
Oh no, he's grey. And he's neither as old, nor as handsome, nor as talkative, nor as seriously funny, nor as pink or cranky as me.
Ghay* aka ghey.
Ah bro. You always surprise us with your masterful command of grammar and spelling.
You shouldn't react, you should respond with the fury of gay porn spam, a la @skeptic.
Eeerm... ¿You mean like this?
I'm afraid I don't have the strength and cordially twisted sense of humor of our friend @skeptic. };)
Kill em with poetry work too!
I'm pretty bad at poetry. I rather prefer kill them with extremely funny jokes that they never understand. Hahahaha
Your joy is their kryptonite.
@skeptic was one of my first heroes on here. I was sad when he disappeared.
I am not suprised you recall him fondly as well. You seem to be able to pick on.. er, pick out excellent people.
Thanks!
Heroic spamming gay porn and whining about being downvoted. He clearly did not belong on the internet, let alone on a immutable blockchain.
We should ask that the next hard fork end the use of downvote trails and/or auto downvotes. At least make the downvoters actually hit the downvote button themselves. There has always been talk of ending upvote trails and auto upvotes, but I've never heard anyone suggest the same for downvotes. This would cut down on capricious, unfair, and harmful downvoting.
I object to behavior modification attempts of all kinds. Whenever they start trying to modify our behavior, the smaller accounts are harmed the most.
Yeah, I agree! From the beginning and for a long time I have been a great enemy of all kinds of automatisms on a social setting. Whoever wants to earn money interacting socially, that can do it only working. Doing it consciously, manually, organically, in person and actively.
Downvoting is the only way to make more tokens available in the rewards pool exclusively for them. Since due to their high HP, that allows them to extract a higher amount of tokens than anyone else. Did you know that if absolutely no one voted during 7 days and you were the only one who voted in that period, your vote would equal the total value of the rewards pool?
Eliminating all kinds of automatisms, without a doubt that would substantially reduce all sorts of capricious, unfair and harmful behaviors. Because to deserve earn monetary rewards, you have to work. And not everyone is willing to do it. Especially if you already have money to spare.
Nothing that tries to submit others to do something by force is going to have good results. The smaller accounts and that we are the majority, the ones who really keep the beach bar going, we'll end up rebelling.
Check out Johnny carson's interview of Ayn Rand back in 1967. I'd supply a link, but I have only been able to find excerpts just now, and I gotta run!
I absolutely agree, but note that competent scripters can, and do, make their own bots. Somebody makes all the bots. It's not the frontends.
We have several witnesses in the top20 that made their fortunes - and their friends - by that bot invasion that very nearly destroyed the platform. While I am not knowledgeable regarding their conversion to top20 witnesses from bitbot operators, it seem likely that they ended their bidbotting in exchange for the inclusion in the oligarchy that rules Hive.
I am aware that at least one former bidbot still operates on Hive, now as a DV device. It seems these botters are incapable of being prevented on the blockchain, which makes me sad that @ned's attempt to create oracles competent to limit votes to 1/per human user failed.
So, I suggest that it is impossible to be rid of bots without oracles like @ned referred to, as sad as that is. Since Hive is a social interaction, I strongly support that interaction being only between humans. Insofar as we fail to do that, we fail to be a social media platform, and denigrate humanity to the humanity applying to toasters.
Thanks!
Hm. Good point. I don't know script from toilet paper, but couldn't someone then make a bot that blocks downvotes on their posts?
Not without having greater stake. The blockchain is where voting actually occurs, and the front ends are just GUIs.
Wish I even had a clue how all this downvoting and all works... I just publish and don't worry. [shrug] No clue what the best strategy would be, but I hope You figure it out!
Don't worry that sooner than later you will know it all. Every pig always gets its Saturday in one way or another. Especially if the owners of the pigsty get hungry. In the meantime, keep doing what you've been doing the way you've been doing it. };)
There is no foolproof strategy. You just have to keep trying it and testing it. And yeah, we eventually will figure it out.
Something tells Me that, after, what? 5 years (and more if steemit is counted), if I don't have a handle on that, I am unlikely to. Haha! Indeed, I will keep plugging along! Aiming to put down that dangerous and archaic tool in all its forms, i.e., money, whether trade barter or on up to electronic bits.
Dangerous because money systems WILL promote the psychopaths to power, and archaic because We have tech They hide that would make accounting for Our energy added quite pointless.
Anyway... May My work succeed!
The reason for the confusion that can be found online is that the people who have taken the extremes they assess in this way have already taken them themselves without realising it. So anyone who does not realise that they are pursuing extreme thoughts and intentions, while at the same time demanding that anyone who happens to be the focus of an unrelated mob be excluded, censored and otherwise persecuted, is hopelessly bogged down. I mean "extreme" in the sense of "without alternative", a circumstance that hardly ever exists in purity.
Since something like "thought" basically never reigns fixed in any mind, it always reigns only as a temporary whim, as a fleeting element constantly contradicting itself in the further course of such thoughts, on the constant hunt for a fixed identification.
The reason you don't know why you get downvotes is not surprising, since the only rule by which the sphere runs here is the sentiments of individuals who, whenever they feel like it, choose sometimes this way and sometimes that. Too much "social", too little expertise.
This is how one comes under the strict tribal rulebook, which, as we believe we know from times gone by, promoted an extremely strong group dynamic, while on the other hand the individual could not express irritating, different and new thoughts and ideas, because otherwise he would be beaten to death or chased away. This is not as blatant today, but it still exists, even in modern environments. There they are less deadly, but a reason to feel very lonely at times, when one despairs of the fact that everything works and at the same time nothing works, precisely because everything is talked to pieces and thought to death and, on the other hand, an all-round superficiality steadily breaks through.
The only way to escape this is to go offline. A possibility that you can no longer fully rely on.
To answer your strategic suggestions: there is no general strategy, except not to have one and to evaluate each situation for itself. Since hardly anyone does that and nothing and no one is treated as a blank slate, one concludes that there is a certain mindset that one must either adhere to or throw something at. LOL
I thought of answering your quiz;)
Here it goes:
Often only works if you tag the names you got the downvotes from and where that leads, we know. Gets a no. Unless ... you're setting it up for all the called to come and spank you. Could be interesting, though (for all others who read and comment).
One will not like the answers. So pointless. It would be like if someone is mean to me and I ask them "Why are you being mean to me?", I give them an opportunity to tell me how stupid, brash, lazy or otherwise uncreative I am (unless I want to learn to grow from the insults as a training ground, in which case that's a super thing to do). Get's a yes in case I am in the mood to sacrifice the account I used for this (If I have only one account, I wouldn't do it. Which is the case with me).
This is worth considering but not acting out necessarily, because at that moment you have to ask yourself if the cause is important enough. Already the pain is put into perspective, isn't it? So, a good way to check if the drama is real or just imagined.
Not worth it because it's not fun unless you have a bunch of connections and money, but then you wouldn't have gotten into the situation you want out of in the first place. LOL
Only succeeds if you are an excellent stoic and possess a calm and ignorant attitude to any backlash and downvote that accompanies you. It takes a lot of ass in the pants. If you don't have that, better not.
That gets a "yes".
Thanks. That was fun :)
I hadn't heard that saying before, and I lol'ed. You are a great writer.
Thanks!
HaHa! Thanks, that is a very typical German (street slang) expression and I often have fun to introduce them into English :)