When it is Better to Burn a Card Instead of Selling it: a Case Study to Explain it! + Considerations about Active Draft Proposals (ENG/ITA)
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When it is Better to Burn a Card Instead of Selling it: a Case Study to Explain it
Considerations about Active Draft Proposals
I'm a Splinterlands player since September 2019, Splinterlands is my favorite blockchain-based game and to date I've played more than 36000 battles without using bots because Splinterlands is a fun game for me.
On Splinterlands, cards are important because without them you can't play and you can't win battles.
The cards have many use cases:
- they can be used to play in the Player Vs Player mode.
- they can be used as worker cards in land plots
- they can be rented to other players
- may be transferred to other players
- may be delegated to other players
- may be sold in the Market in exchange for DEC tokens
- can be burned in exchange for DEC tokens.
Theoretically all cards have the same use cases, but in reality, cards usable in the Wild Format have one very important use case less than cards usable in the Modern Format.
In fact cards usable only in the Wild Format can only be used in a format full of bots.
Because of the bots in the Wild Format the old cards are completely useless cards in game for a real player who enjoys playing manually on Splinterlands and only has fun when playing with real players like him.
How can a real player enjoy playing against bots that are more efficient than him?
This major loss of a use case closely related to play = fun is not the only cause but is in my opinion the main cause why some cards usable in the Wild Format have a lower market value than cards usable in the Modern Format even if they have similar or even significantly higher game statistics or if they have a higher market value are difficult to sell.
Since the split between Wild Format (bots and battle helpers allowed) and Modern Format (bans on bots) all the cards that came out of Modern Format have lost usefulness for real players like me and as a result have lost a lot of value.
Many Chaos Legion cards already have a very low market value because of the large amount of cards in circulation and when they come out of Modern Format they may be worth even less than the value they have today.
I have many Chaos Legion cards in my card collection because immediately after the banning of bots in Modern Format was announced, I decided to play only in Modern Format and sold many of my Beta cards to build a competitive card collection in the only fun format on Splinterlands: the Modern Format.
When Untamed cards came out of Modern Format I did the same, I sold many Untamed cards to buy Chaos Legion and Rebellion cards.
Thanks to my selling and buying strategy, I now have a competitive card collection in the Modern Format Gold leagues where I enjoy playing.
We are just hours away from the end of voting for the Draft Proposal about the early release of the new set of cards.
I voted no because even though I love to play on Splinterlands I consider it counterproductive to release a new set if we don't first solve the problem of the uselessness of cards coming out of Modern Format for real players who like to play manually on Splinterlands.
I explained the reasons for my no in detail in my previous post which you can read by clicking on the next link.
 | Post Link: Why I voted no for the Conclave Arcane Card Set Proposal: New use cases for Old cards should be the priority! |
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The draft proposals are not binding proposals but they are the first step towards arriving at a proposal and perhaps for the first time since I have been a Splinterlands player I voted no on three active draft proposals.
The first two draft proposals are sponsored by the DAO and therefore come from community members and propose to increase listing fees from the current cost of 1 DEC to the cost of 5 DEC or 10 DEC.
I voted no because in my opinion it is the wrong time to think about increasing listing fees because the priority should be to restore, not necessarily economic value, but usefulness in the game to the old cards!
These two draft proposals gave me the inspiration to write the main topic of this post, which is the comparison between the market value of a card and its burning value.
Market Value Vs Burning Value.
1 Case Study with Calculations and Considerations.
Every card in Splinterlands in addition to having a market value also has a burning value because it can be converted to DEC.
For example, the card Cruel Sethropod which is a Chaos Legion card particularly useful in battles that have the Little League ruleset has:
- a market value = 0.010 USD (Low Buy price per single BCX)
- a market value = 0.006 USD (Low Buy price per BCX>1)
- a High Bid value = 0.007 USD (best buy offer in the market)
- a Burning value = 5 DEC
While it can be very easy and straightforward to check whether it is more profitable to sell a card consisting of many BCXs instead of burning it, for cards of only 1 BCX and that have a low market value it is not always easy to identify the best choice between burning and selling because selling a card also has two additional costs to calculate:
- listing fee
- market fee
In addition, the value of the DEC token plays an important role in this decision.
For example in my card collection I have:
- 1 Cruel Sethropod of level 10 =400 BCX that I use in my battles.
- 2 Cruel Sethropod of level 3 (14 BCX X 2)
- 23 Cruel Sethropod of level 1 (1 BCX per card).
If I burn 1 Cruel Sethropod of level 1 I get 5 DEC = 0.00406154$
If I sell 1 Cruel Sethropod at the price low buy = $0.010 I do not get $0.010 because I have to subtract selling costs from this value.
The selling costs are:
- listing fee = 1 DEC
- market fee = 6% of the selling price.
The total value of selling costs for 1 BCX of Cruel Sethropod sold at $0.010 is = $0.00141231
Because of these costs, the final gain is 0.00858769$ and is not 0.010$
In the case of Cruel Sethropod it is more advantageous to put it up for sale instead of burning although an increase in the value of the DEC token and a decrease in the market value of the card could reverse this result.
It would have been worthwhile to sell Cruel Sethropod even in the case where the listing fees were as proposed in the two draft proposals although in the case of a listing fee = 10 DEC the gain from selling is so minimal compared to the gain from burning that perhaps burning would be more convenient to save time.
Even in the case of putting 1 BCX of Cruel Sethropod up for sale at Low Buy value per BCX it is better to sell but the difference in gain between selling and burning is really minimal: +$0.00052616 in favor of the selling option.
A listing fee = 10 DEC instead would make burning the cheaper option.
So dear reader, if you are also a Splinterlands player you should always consider all possible options before selling a card because the value of the DEC token and the market value of the card could change the ratios between burning and selling.
When Chaos Legion cards will come out of Modern Format these calculations might be important because if the value of the cards will decrease and the value of the DEC token will increase burning might be the best option for several cards.
I will end this post with the personal considerations that I also wrote in my previous post and that will be recurring in each of my next Splinterlands posts until things change in a positive way according to my personal point of view.
I love playing on Splinterlands and because of that I only get attached to the cards I use in the game.
But I still don't understand why no action is taken to change the current split between Wild Format (Wild Pass, bots and battle helpes allowed) and Modern Format (only real players allowed).
Is creating a league just for bots really such an impossible solution to implement?
Those who use bots can use all cards from all collections, those who play and want to play manually only against real players cannot!
Why should a real player who likes to play on Splinterlands and gets attached to his cards because he uses them in battle have to be forced to sell his cards every time they come out of Modern Format if he wants to continue to have fun and be competitive in Modern Format?
I hope the intention to provide new use cases to old cards stated by @yabapmatt will include new use cases related to play and fun.
With this hope of mine I conclude this post.
I hope I have given you useful information and some interesting thoughts and thank you for taking the time to read this post :)
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Quando è meglio bruciare una carta invece di venderla e viceversa + Considerazioni sulle Draft Proposals attive.
Gioco su Splinterlands dal mese di settembre 2019, Splinterlands è il mio gioco basato su blockchain preferito e fino ad oggi ho giocato più di 36000 battaglie senza mai usare bots perchè Splinterlands è un gioco divertente per me.
Su Splinterlands le carte sono importanti perchè senza non puoi giocare e non puoi vincere le battaglie.
Le carte hanno molti casi d'uso:
- possono essere utilizzate per giocare nella modalità Player Vs Player
- possono essere utilizzate come worker cards nei Land plots
- possono essere date in noleggio ad altri giocatori
- possono essere trasferite ad altri giocatori
- possono essere delegate ad altri giocatori
- possono essere vendute nel Market in cambio di token DEC
- possono essere bruciate in cambio di token DEC
Teoricamente tutte le carte hanno gli stessi casi d'uso ma in realtà le carte utilizzabili nel Wild Format hanno un caso d'uso molto importante in meno rispetto alle carte utilizzabili nel Modern Format.
Infatti le carte utilizzabili solo nel Wild Format possono essere utilizzate solo in un formato pieno di bots.
A causa dei bots nel Wild Format le old cards sono carte completamente inutili per un giocatore reale che si diverte a giocare manualmente su Splinterlands e che si diverte solo quando gioca con giocatori reali come lui.
Come può un giocatore reale divertirsi a giocare contro bots più efficienti di lui?
Questa importante perdita di un caso d'uso strettamente collegato al gioco = divertimento non è l'unica causa ma è secondo me la causa principale per cui alcune carte utilizzabili nel Wild Format hanno un valore di mercato inferiore alle carte utilizzabili nel Modern Format anche se hanno statistiche di gioco simili o anche nettamente superiori oppure se hanno un valore di mercato superiore sono difficili da vendere.
Da quando c'è stata la divisione tra Wild Format (bots e battle helpers consentiti) e Modern Format (divieto di usare i bots) tutte le carte che sono uscite dal Modern Format hanno perso utilità per i giocatori reali come me e di conseguenza hanno perso molto valore.
Molte carte Chaos Legion hanno già un valore di mercato molto basso a causa della grande quantità di carte in circolazione e quando usciranno dal Modern Format potrebbero valere molto meno rispetto al valore che hanno oggi.
Io ho molte carte Chaos Legion nella mia collezione di carte perchè immediatamente dopo che è stato annunciato il ban dei bots nel Modern Format ho deciso di giocare solo nel Modern Format e ho venduto molte mie carte Beta per costruirmi una collezione di carte competitiva nell'unico formato divertente su Splinterlands: il Modern Format.
Quando le carte Untamed sono uscite dal Modern Format ho fatto lo stesso, ho venduto molte carte Untamed per acquistare carte Chaos Legion e Rebellion.
Grazie alla mia strategia di vendita e acquisto, oggi ho una collezione di carte competitiva nelle leghe Gold del Modern Format dove mi diverto a giocare.
Mancano poche ore alla fine delle votazioni per la Draft Proposal sul rilascio anticipato del nuovo set di carte.
Io ho votato no perchè anche se amo giocare su Splinterlands considero controproducente rilasciare un nuovo set se prima non si risolve il problema della inutilità delle carte che escono dal Modern Format per i giocatori reali che amano giocare manualmente su Splinterlands.
Ho spiegato le motivazioni del mio no in dettaglio nel mio precedente post che puoi leggere cliccando sul prossimo link.
| Post Link: Why I voted no for the Conclave Arcane Card Set Proposal: New use cases for Old cards should be the priority! |
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Le draft proposals non sono proposte vincolanti ma sono il primo passo per arrivare ad una proposal e forse per la prima volta da quando sono un giocatore di Splinterlands ho votato no a tre draft proposals attive.
Le prime due draft proposals sono sponsorizzate dal DAO e quindi provengono da membri della comunità e propongono di aumentare le listing fee dall'attuale costo di 1 DEC al costo di 5 DEC o 10 DEC.
Ho votato no perchè secondo me è il momento sbagliato per pensare ad un aumento delle listing fees perchè la priorità dovrebbe essere di ridare, non necessariamente valore economico, ma utilità nel gioco alle vecchie carte!
Queste due draft proposals mi hanno dato lo spunto per scrivere l'argomento principale di questo post che è il confronto tra il valore di mercato di una carta e il suo burning value.
Valore di mercato Vs Valore di bruciatura
1 Caso Studio con Calcoli e Considerazioni
Ogni carta di Splinterlands oltre ad avere un valore di mercato ha anche un valore di burning perchè può essere convertita in DEC.
Ad esempio la carta Cruel Sethropod che è una carta Chaos Legion particolarmente utile nelle battaglie che hanno la ruleset Little League ha:
- un valore di mercato = 0.010 USD (Low Buy price per singolo BCX)
- un valore di mercato = 0.006 USD (Low Buy price per BCX>1)
- un valore High Bid = 0.007 USD (migliore offerta di acquisto presente sul mercato)
- un valore di burning = 5 DEC
Se può essere molto facile e immediato capire che è più conveniente vendere una carta composta da molti BCX invece di bruciarla, per carte di 1 solo BCX e che hanno un valore di mercato basso non è sempre facile individuare la scelta migliore tra burning e selling perchè vendere una carta ha anche due costi aggiuntivi da calcolare:
- listing fee
- market fee
Inoltre il valore del token DEC gioca un ruolo importante in questa decisione.
Ad esempio nella mia collezione di carte ho:
- 1 Cruel Sethropod di livello 10 =400 BCX che utilizzo nelle mie battaglie.
- 2 Cruel Sethropod di livello 3 (14 BCX X 2)
- 23 Cruel Sethropod di livello 1 (1 BCX per carta)
Se brucio 1 Cruel Sethropod di livello 1 ottengo 5 DEC = 0.00406154$
Se vendo 1 Cruel Sethropod al prezzo low buy = 0.010$ non ottengo 0.010$ perchè a questo valore devo sottrarre i selling costs.
I selling cost sono:
- listing fee = 1 DEC
- market fee = 6% sul prezzo di vendita
Il valore totale dei selling costs per 1 BCX di Cruel Sethropod venduto a 0.010$ è = 0.00141231$
Per effetto di questi costi il guadagno finale è 0.00858769$ e non è 0.010$
Nel caso di Cruel Sethropod è più conveniente la messa in vendita invece della bruciatura anche se un aumento di valore del token DEC e una diminuzione del valore di mercato della carta potrebbe invertire questo risultato.
Sarebbe stato conveniente vendere Cruel Sethropod anche nel caso in cui le listing fee fossero state quelle proposte nelle due draft proposals anche se nel caso di una listing fee = 10 DEC il guadagno derivante dalla vendita è talmente minimo rispetto al guadagno derivante dalla bruciatura che forse converrebbe la bruciatura per risparmiare tempo.
Anche nel caso della messa in vendita di 1 BCX di Cruel Sethropod al valore Low Buy per BCX è più conveniente la vendita ma la differenza di guadagno tra vendita e bruciatura è davvero minima: +0.00052616$ in favore dell'opzione vendita.
Una listing fee = 10 DEC invece farebbe diventare la bruciatura l'opzione più conveniente.
Quindi caro lettore, se sei anche un giocatore di Splinterlands devi sempre considerare tutte le opzioni possibili prima di vendere una carta perchè il valore del token DEC e il valore di mercato della carta potrebbero modificare i rapporti tra bruciatura e vendita.
Quando le carte Chaos Legion usciranno dal Modern Format questi calcoli potrebbero essere importanti perchè se il valore delle carte diminuirà e il valore del token DEC aumenterà la bruciatura potrebbe essere la migliore opzioni per diverse carte.
Concludo questo post con le considerazioni personali che ho scritto anche nel mio precedente post e che saranno ricorrenti in ogni mio prossimo post di Splinterlands fino a quando le cose non cambieranno in modo positivo secondo il mio personale punto di vista.
Amo giocare su Splinterlands e per questo motivo mi affeziono solo alle carte che utilizzo in gioco.
Ma continuo a non capire il perchè non si interviene per modificare l'attuale suddivisione tra Wild Format (Wild Pass, bots e battle helpes consentiti) e Modern Format (solo giocatori reali consentiti).
Creare una lega solo per i bots è davvero una soluzione così impossibile da attuare?
Chi usa i bots può usare tutte le carte di tutte le collezioni, chi gioca e vuole giocare manualmente solo contro giocatori reali no!
Perchè un giocatore reale che ama giocare su Splinterlands e si affezziona alle sue carte perchè le usa in battaglia deve essere costretto a vendere le sue carte ogni volta che escono dal Modern Format se vuole continuare a divertirsi e ad essere competitivo nel Modern Format?
Spero che l'intenzione di fornire nuovi casi d'uso alle old cards dichiarato da @yabapmatt includa nuovi casi d'uso collegati al gioco e al divertimento.
Con questa mia speranza concludo questo post.
Spero di averti dato informazioni utili e qualche spunto di riflessione interessante e ti ringrazio per aver dedicato il tuo tempo alla lettura di questo post :)
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well explained, thanks for the information, never thought it's gonna be better burning than selling
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The fees don't make much sense to me. It sounds like Splinterlands is still trying to raise more funds despite getting the DHF funding. I hope they do add value to the older cards.
Yes my friend I hope this too otherwise I think the next set of cards will sell the minur number of card packs in the history of Splinterlands
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Ive burned just a few cards recently, im glad SPS has sorta been stable.
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I hope Splinterlands understands that the priority is to give play value to old cards otherwise I for one will no longer buy cards and packs of cards
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I think we will see when CL rotates out of modern, more of these cards fall to their burn value. Without the changes you mention, the long term future of the game is at risk. Also purchased cards should have more utility and value over soulbound ones imo.
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Completely agree with you, my friend
I hope Splinterlands understands that the priority is to give play value to the old cards otherwise the new set of cards might make the record as the least number of card packs sold
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I also voted no for all those proposals. The increase of the fees would be terrible for the game. They are already too high. Market fees used to be 5% and even at the time my thought was "why don't we have an interface to do peer to peer trading without any fees or risk of scam?" They've been raised to 6% and now the 10% would be insane. The listing fee also never made sense to me. There should be no listing fee. It was only created because there were some relisting services that kept adjusting the prices of rentals over and over again, undercutting other people, which caused massive server issues. Instead of a listing fee there should be a relisting fee. Any card that has been listed for sale or rent in the past X days, has to pay a big fee to be relisted. It could be 10 or even 100 DEC. That's enough to stop mass relisting without affecting normal users.
I voted no for the new set not because of anything in it but because of the timing. Ever since Untamed, a new core set was released every 2 years (give or take a month). This would give 4 years of modern for every set. However, this proposal days that the new set will be released on April, taking about 6 months of modern from CL. CL buyers are by far the biggest losers in Splinterlands. Not only in terms of monetary value but also in gameplay. For a long time, those who had only CL had to fight against not just Untamed but also Alpha and Beta. Only much later was modern introduced. They still had to face several OP cards from Untamed that were too scarce to get. While older players were able to use earnings from older sets to buy CL, the same can't be said about those who started with CL. We had to choose to invest more in Rebellion or just suck it up and fight without it. And now to have even less time in modern than expected, it's just not good.
I also believe that there should be schedule for sets so that players know how long they have until their cards are not in modern anymore. That isn't something that should change at will because it destroys trust.
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Completely agree with everything you wrote
I hope Splinterlands understands that the priority is to give play value to the old cards otherwise the new set of cards might make the record as the least number of card packs sold
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I don't know exactly when conclave arcana will be released, please do you know exactly when?
I think it's time to sell off my cards and probably exit the game because if I probably wait too long my CL would lose all it's value
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The draft proposal passed favorably but there will be a proposal that dertimens whether the release of the new set will be anticipated or not.
If the next proposal passes the presale of the new set will begin in April 2025 and the Chaos Legion set will be released from Modern in approximately May 2025.
I hope the next proposal will not pass and I will work hard to promote no.
I will only vote yes if Splinterlands will give importance and game value to the old cards but this is now a hope I have had for a long time and it has never materialized :(
If the proposal is accepted and people begin to pay ridiculous fees, a lot of people may withdraw from playing games
Yes Splinterlands does not need new fees but to give game value to the cards of the first editions
Non capisco il senso di far pagare più "tasse" alle persone... personalmente non la trovo una cosa molto incentivante 😅 va bene voler bruciare DEC, ma così non si rischia più che altro di veder crollare il numero di transazioni sul mercato? Boh, certe idee le capisco davvero poco, anche se sono sicuro che chi le pensa abbia le sue ragioni...
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The thing is that if cards stay at burn value like many of the reward and chaos Legion ones now, it means Splinterlands failed and the economy is still broken. So since old card prices need to be fixed for Splinterlands to succeed, I feel it's better to just hold the cards instead of selling or to burn them.
About splitting Wild in bot and human mode, I'm not really sure that I would vote for it honestly. What they need to fix is the fact that players should be able to play at times that they want and can without missing out on earnings. A totally new game mode with different dynamics is needed for that. The reality that most including myself who run a bot in wild simply don't have the time to grind 1-Hour+ each and every day.
What they could do is integrate a bot service in-game at a fair price (which also helps them get some earnings), and when you play manually you get matched up with other human players in the same wild league. This allows players to put things in auto mode while they can play manually and have fun against real human players at times that they want to. This however would be tricky as many would try to cheat the system with battle helpers and such.
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