Modern or Wild Format or Both? My Final Test Evaluations After Three Seasons Played in Both Formats (ENG/ITA)

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Modern or Wild Format or Both? My Final test evaluations after three seasons played in both formats

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On Splinterlands the season number 138 is underway and will end in about 12 days and 22 hours.

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Since bots and battle helpers were banned in Modern Format ranked battles I chose to play only in Modern Format because I like to play only against real players like myself.

Starting in season 135 I began a test and played in both formats and at the end of each season I shared my results and evaluations on my Hive blog:

I chose to do my test and play in both formats to collect data to evaluate whether it is more convenient for me:

  • play only in the Modern Format and rent my Beta and Untamed cards to other players
  • or use my Beta and Untamed cards to also play in the Wild Format.

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To do my test:

  • I played as usual in the Modern Format with my main account: @libertycrypto27
  • I played in the Wild Format with my curation account for SPT tokens: @libertygame27
  • at the beginning of season 135, I divided the amount of SPS tokens in my possession equally: I delegated 48K SPS staked to libertygame27 and kept 48K SPS staked on libertycrypto27

With libertycrypto27 I used in Modern Format a card collection consisting of 893 cards = 18943 BCX worth 1624$ and a CP = 452655

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With libertygame27 I used in the Wild Format a card collection consisting of 86 cards = 2212 BCX worth 732$ and a CP = 93285

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After three seasons played in both formats, it was time for me to conclude my test and it was also time for me to evaluate it to choose whether to continue playing in both formats or play only in the Modern Format.

In the last season, season 137, which ended just over 2 days ago:

  • libertycrypto27 finished season 137 in the Gold I league of the Modern Format: Rank: 562

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  • libertygame27 finished season 137 in league Diamond I of the Wild Format: Rank: 2703

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In the three seasons that I have played in both formats, my playing results in Modern Format have improved because my win rate has improved even if only slightly:

  • Season 135: win rate: 47.51% - Final League: Gold II.
  • Season 136: win rate: 48.95% - Final League: Gold II
  • Season 137: win rate: 48.97% - Final League: Gold I

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Instead, my gaming results in the Wild Format have worsened:

  • Season 135: win rate: 48.77% - Final League: CHAMPION III.
  • Season 136: win rate: 51.38% - Final League: CHAMPION III
  • Season 137: win rate: 49.28% - Final League: DIAMOND I

The effect of the Wild Pass on game results in the Wild Format is evident because:

  • it produced a large decrease in players and probably many bots because libertygame27's rating decreased in season 137 compared to season 136 but the rank improved: 2703 vs 4580
  • made the Wild Format less easy because my win rate decreased by just over two percentage points in the transition from season 136 to season 137

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The analysis of game results are important but in my testing it is much more important to analyze the gains in SPS tokens from battle wins because it is this analysis that will weigh most heavily in my decision whether or not to continue playing both formats.

With libertycrypto27, during season 137, in the Modern Format I earned 727.23 SPS from battle wins = 4.49 SPS per battle won

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With libertygame27, during season 137, in the Wild Format I earned 205.79 SPS from wins in battles = 1.30 SPS per battle won

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In the next table you can see all of data I collected during the three seasons my test lasted.

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In the Modern Format the average gain in SPS per battle won increased season after season and in season 137 it was 4.49 SPS per battle won with about 50K SPS staked

Also in Wild Format the average gain in SPS per battle won increased season after season and in season 137 was 1.30 SPS per battle won with about 49K SPS staked

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Playing in the Wild Format with my Beta and Untamed cards allowed me to earn 205.79 SPS in season 137 but this earning is not the final earning because in the Wild Format there is the Wild Pass which is a cost to play in the Wild Format at the beginning of each season.

Based on the current value of DEC tokens and VOUCHER tokens I have calculated the cost of the Wild Pass based on the different purchase options that can be chosen.

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To purchase the Wild Pass it is best to use VOUCHER tokens as a payment method because in this case you get the lowest cost: $0.6463

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In season 137 I earned 205.79 SPS thanks to 158 battle victories whose dollar value is = $1.47

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If I subtract from this gain the dollar cost of the Wild Pass I get a profit = $0.8286

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Therefore my gain in SPS in the Wild Format in season 137 is no longer 205.79 SPS but 115.61 SPS

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Playing with two accounts instead of one does not cost me much in terms of time and in terms of concentration because after more than 5 years as a Splinterlands player I know the cards and game dynamics well and because I have four monitors at my disposal and can use two monitors side by side to play without switching from one window to another.

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But at the same time I think an additional income of about 115 SPS per season does not justify the delegation of half of my SPS to also play in the Wild Format.

My final assessments and considerations after my test are:

  • it is not so convenient for me to play also in the Wild Format because in all probability:

    • I could get more by putting all my staked SPSs at the disposal of my main account playing in Modern Format = it would increase my average gain per battle win in Modern Format
    • I could put my Beta and Untamed cards on the rental market and earn an amount of DEC tokens passively
  • the cost of the Wild Pass is easily covered by gains in SPS.

  • the Wild Pass most probably decreased the number of bots in the Wild Format but did not bring as much benefit in terms of SPS gain because in my test my average SPS gain per battle won went from 1.14 (Wild pass not active) to 1.30 (Wild Pass active)

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The Wild Pass was created to counteract bots in the Wild Format but this solution is in my opinion a wrong or at least suboptimal solution and one that has had only partially positive effects in counteracting bots and my practical testing has confirmed this initial thesis of mine.

Any solution that affects bots but also real players is never an optimal solution in my opinion!

If bots are a problem and have always been a problem in my opinion they should be eliminated immediately instead of thinking and/or adopting partial or non-solving solutions to the bots problem!

In the current season I will only play in the Modern Format where there are no bots and battle helpers and where there are only real players like me and where, by removing the delegation in SPS to libertygame27, I will most likely gain a greater amount of SPS than in season 137 where I played in both formats.

My goals in season 138 will be the same as in the previous season:

  • finish the season at least in the GOLD I league in the Modern Format.
  • earn at least 50K GLINT

I hope I have given you useful information and thank you for taking the time to read my post :)

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A selection of my previous Splinterlands posts

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Wild Pass Initial Effects Considerations + My partial seasonal results (ENG/ITA)Splinterlands Conflicts Started: Step By Step Guide + My Strategy (ENG/ITA)Modern or Wild Format or Both? My test evaluations after two seasons and the start of my third and final testing season (ENG/ITA)New Ranked System Is Live! My First 20 Battles and My First Impressions and Evaluations (ENG/ITA)

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A selection of my previous Splinterlands posts about Lands

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Splinterlands LAND Phase 1.5 is STARTED! The Building of my first Worksite - Step By Step (ENG/ITA)Splinterlands LAND 1.0: Claim, Survey and Buy of Starter Packages: Step by Step guides + Considerations (ENG/ITA)My Lands Worksites Optimization + Focus on GRAIN: Where to buy it and why and at what price to buy it!How to Quickly Calculate the Hourly Production of Your Splinterlands Lands + An Example of Production Points Optimization (ENG/ITA)

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Formato Moderno o Formato Wild o Entrambi? Le valutazioni finali del mio test dopo tre stagioni giocate in entrambi i formati

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Su Splinterlands è in corso la stagione numero 138 che terminerà tra circa 12 giorni e 22 ore.

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Da quando i bots e i battle helpers sono stati vietati nelle ranked battles del Modern Format ho scelto di giocare solo nel Modern Format perchè mi piace giocare solo contro i giocatori reali come me.

A partire dalla stagione 135 ho iniziato un test e ho giocato in entrambi i formati e alla fine di ogni stagione ho condiviso i miei risultati e le mie valutazioni sul mio Hive blog:

Ho scelto di fare il mio test e di giocare in entrambi i formati per raccogliere i dati per valutare se è più conveniente per me:

  • giocare solo nel Modern Format e noleggiare ad altri giocatori le mie carte Beta e Untamed
  • o utilizzare le mie carte Beta e Untamed per giocare anche nel Wild Format.

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Per fare il mio test:

  • ho giocato come sempre nel Modern Format con il mio account principale: @libertycrypto27
  • ho giocato nel Wild Format con il mio curation account per i token SPT: @libertygame27
  • all'inizio della stagione 135 ho diviso in modo uguale il quantitativo di token SPS in mio possesso: ho delegato 48K SPS staked a libertygame27 e ho mantenuto 48K SPS staked su libertycrypto27

Con libertycrypto27 ho utilizzato nel Modern Format una collezione di carte composta da 893 carte = 18943 BCX del valore di 1624$ e un CP = 452655

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Con libertygame27 ho utilizzato nel Wild Format una collezione di carte composta da 86 carte = 2212 BCX del valore di 732$ e un CP = 93285

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Dopo tre stagioni giocate in entrambi i formati è arrivato il momento per me di concludere il mio test ed è anche arrivato il momento di valutarlo per scegliere se continuare a giocare in entrambi i formati oppure giocare solo nel Modern Format.

Nell'ultima stagione, la stagione 137, terminata poco più di 2 giorni fa:

  • libertycrypto27 ha terminato la stagione 137 in lega Gold I del Modern Format: Rank: 562

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  • libertygame27 ha terminato la stagione 137 in lega Diamond I del Wild Format: Rank: 2703

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Nelle tre stagioni in cui ho giocato in entrambi i formati, i miei risultati di gioco nel Modern Format sono migliorati perchè è migliorato il mio win rate anche se di poco:

  • Season 135: win rate: 47.51% - Final League: Gold II
  • Season 136: win rate: 48.95% - Final League: Gold II
  • Season 137: win rate: 48.97% - Final League: Gold I

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Sono invece peggiorati i miei risultati nel Wild Format:

  • Season 135: win rate: 48.77% - Final League: CHAMPION III
  • Season 136: win rate: 51.38% - Final League: CHAMPION III
  • Season 137: win rate: 49.28% - Final League: DIAMOND I

L'effetto del Wild Pass sui risultati di gioco nel Wild Format è evidente perchè:

  • ha prodotto una forte diminuzione dei giocatori e probabilmente di molti bots perchè il rating di libertygame27 è diminuito nella stagione 137 rispetto alla stagione 136 ma il rank è migliorato: 2703 vs 4580
  • ha reso il Wild Format meno facile perchè il mio win rate è diminuito di poco più di due punti percentuali nel passaggio dalla stagione 136 alla stagione 137

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L'analisi dei risultati di gioco sono importanti ma nel mio test è molto più importante l'analisi dei guadagni in token SPS provenienti dalle vittorie in battaglia perchè è quest'analisi che peserà maggiormente nella mia decisione di continuare a giocare o meno in entrambi i formati.

Con libertycrypto27, durante la stagione 137, nel Modern Format ho guadagnato 727.23 SPS dalle vittorie in battaglie = 4.49 SPS per battaglia vinta

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Con libertygame27, durante la stagione 137, nel Wild Format ho guadagnato 205.79 SPS dalle vittorie in battaglie = 1.30 SPS per battaglia vinta

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Nel prospetto seguente puoi vedere tutti di dati che ho raccolto durante le tre stagioni in cui è durato il mio test.

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Nel Modern Format il guadagno medio in SPS per battaglia vinta è aumentato stagione dopo stagione e nella stagione 137 è stato di 4.49 SPS per battaglia vinta con circa 50K SPS staked

Anche nel Wild Format il guadagno medio in SPS per battaglia vinta è aumentato stagione dopo stagione e nella stagione 137 è stato di 1.30 SPS per battaglia vinta con circa 49K SPS staked

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Giocare nel Wild Format con le mie carte Beta e Untamed mi ha permesso di guadagnare 205.79 SPS nella stagione 137 ma questo guadagno non è il guadagno finale perchè nel Wild Format c'è il Wild Pass che è un costo da sostenere ad ogni inizio stagione per giocare nel Wild Format.

In base al valore attuale dei token DEC e dei token VOUCHER ho calcolato il costo del Wild Pass in base alle diverse opzioni di acquisto sceglibili.

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Per acquistare il Wild Pass conviene utilizzare i token VOUCHER come metodo di pagamento perchè in questo caso si ottiene il costo più basso: 0.6463$

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Nella stagione 137 ho guadagnato 205.79 SPS grazie a 158 vittorie in battaglia il cui valore in dollari è = 1.47$

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Se sottraggo a questo guadagno il costo in dollari del Wild Pass ottengo un profitto = 0.8286$

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Per questo motivo il mio guadagno in SPS nel Wild Format nella stagione 137 non è più 205.79 SPS ma 115.61 SPS

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Giocare con due accounts invece di uno non mi costa molto in termini di tempo e in termini di concentrazione perchè dopo più di 5 anni da giocatore di Splinterlands conosco bene le carte e le dinamiche di gioco e perchè ho a disposizione quattro monitors e posso usare due monitor affiancati per giocare senza passare da una finestra ad un'altra.

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Ma allo stesso tempo penso che un guadagno aggiuntivo di circa 115 SPS a stagione non giustifica la delegazione di metà dei miei SPS per giocare anche nel Wild Format.

Le mie valutazioni e le mie considerazioni finali dopo il mio test sono:

  • non è tanto conveniente per me giocare anche nel Wild Format perchè con molta probabilità:

    • potrei ottenere di più mettendo tutti i miei SPS staked a disposizione del mio account principale che gioca nel Modern Format = aumenterebbe il mio guadagno medio per vittoria in battaglia nel Modern Format
    • potrei mettere le mie carte Beta e Untamed nel mercato del noleggio e guadagnare un quantitativo di token DEC in modo passivo
  • il costo del Wild Pass è facilmente copribile con i guadagni in SPS

  • il Wild Pass ha con molta probabilità diminuito il numero di bots nel Wild Format ma non ha portato tanti benefici in termini di guadagno in SPS perchè nel mio test il mio guadagno medio in SPS per battaglia vinta è passato da 1.14 (Wild pass non attivo) a 1.30 (Wild Pass attivo)

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Il Wild Pass è stato creato per contrastare i bots nel Wild Format ma questa soluzione è secondo me una soluzione sbagliata o almeno non ottimale e che ha avuto effetti solo parzialmente positivi nel contrastare i bots e il mio test pratico ha confermato questa mia tesi iniziale.

Ogni soluzione che colpisce i bots ma anche i giocatori reali non è mai una soluzione ottimale secondo me!

Se i bots sono un problema e lo sono da sempre secondo me andrebbero immediatamente eliminati invece di pensare e/o adottare soluzioni parziali o non risolutive al problema dei bots!

Nella stagione in corso giocherò solo nel Modern Format dove non ci sono bots e battle helpers e dove ci sono solo giocatori reali come me e dove, togliendo la delega in SPS a libertygame27, con molta probabilità guadagnerò un quantitativo di SPS maggiore rispetto alla stagione 137 in cui ho giocato in entrambi i formati.

I miei obiettivi nella stagione 138 saranno gli stessi della precedente:

  • terminare la stagione almeno nella lega GOLD I nel Modern Format
  • guadagnare almeno 50K GLINT

Spero di averti dato informazioni utili e ti ringrazio per aver dedicato il tuo tempo alla lettura di questo post :)

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Wild Pass Initial Effects Considerations + My partial seasonal results (ENG/ITA)Splinterlands Conflicts Started: Step By Step Guide + My Strategy (ENG/ITA)Modern or Wild Format or Both? My test evaluations after two seasons and the start of my third and final testing season (ENG/ITA)New Ranked System Is Live! My First 20 Battles and My First Impressions and Evaluations (ENG/ITA)

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Splinterlands LAND Phase 1.5 is STARTED! The Building of my first Worksite - Step By Step (ENG/ITA)Splinterlands LAND 1.0: Claim, Survey and Buy of Starter Packages: Step by Step guides + Considerations (ENG/ITA)My Lands Worksites Optimization + Focus on GRAIN: Where to buy it and why and at what price to buy it!How to Quickly Calculate the Hourly Production of Your Splinterlands Lands + An Example of Production Points Optimization (ENG/ITA)

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Il tuo esperimento è stato davvero interessante: la cosa secondo me però che un po' mi fa preoccupare è che, nonostante quasi 50K SPS ed una collezione tutt'altro che low cost, il tuo guadagno è stato per buona parte eroso dal Wild Pass... mi chiedo quanti siano i giocatori che riescono a giocare in quel formato e non finire in perdita, a questo punto.

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C'è anche da dire che non ho giocato tutte le battaglie che potevo e che non ho messo molto focus sulle carte da utilizzare in battaglia per avere un win rate migliore ma penso che sotto un certo quantitativo di SPS staked non sia profittevole giocare nel Wild...
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Thanks for sharing your results. So it can still be profitable in wild but sub optimal in SPS terms. I agree with you conclusions as lumping bot farms with players who run just 1 bot was not the best way to go about things.


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thanks for picking my post.

I agree with you conclusions as lumping bot farms with players who run just 1 bot was not the best way to go about things.

Absolutely and the big problem to be solved, in my opinion, is to find a way to restore value and usefulness to the early edition cards otherwise the next packs will not be bought by anyone because the cards every time they come out of Modern will lose most of their value...

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NO DOWNVOTES FOR MARKY MARK'S SELF VOTING !WEED

https://hive.blog/life/@slobberchops/re-gogreenbuddy-sdr1wb

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive/

https://peakd.com/hive-164833/@bilpcoinbpc/you-have-all-witnessed-this-account-being-downvoted-to-a-negative-reputation-for-no-reason

SHAME ON YOU ALL SAD PEOPLE WHO SCAM LIE AND FARM HIVE AND HIVERS

[-]acidyo (82) 3 months ago
Haha at "I shouldn't make commercial" :D Maybe something to worry about when you have more youtube subscribers! Quite interesting content though, these things should get more subs on there and here.

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[-]gogreenbuddy (67) 3 months ago
Yeah thought that was funny too

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acidyo: $0.06
holbein81: $0.01
koleso: -$0.00

https://hive.blog/life/@gogreenbuddy/i-had-to-give-up-on-my-gabion-fencing-too-much-work

@themarkymark @buildawhale @upmyvote @ipromote @gogreenbuddy @usainvote @punkteam @makerhacks @apeminingclub @leovoter @blockheadgamds @rollingbones farm @cwow2 @solominer @steevc @adm @abit @theycallmedan @dalz @abh12345

HE MAKES CURATION REWARDS WITH ALL HIS ALT ACCOUNTS BURNING TOKENS LIKE THIS DOES NOT TAKE OLD TOKENS IT MINTS NEW ONES AND BURNS THEM

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/the-power

https://www.bilpcoin.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/the-power

https://www.bilpcoin.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/response-4-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts

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cwow stop the drink and drugs

Stop supporting the fake Hive police who do nothing but exploit Hive

Many people on Hive will never get to spend any of their Hive as it may become illegal in certain countries

Looking at Hive from the outside, it looks like trash let just be honest there are issues. Not many people would be interested in coming to Hive to read blogs let's be honest

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Playing in the Wild Format certainly has its challenges, especially with the Wild Pass eating into potential earnings. Your detailed analysis shows how important it is to weigh these costs against the benefits bro, great stuff here !PIZZA

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Yes in the wild it is important to do the calculations well because with few SPS stakes it is difficult to cover the cost of the Wild Pass

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Top witnesses wield significant power, and their use of it is brutal. It's important to consider the impact on users with mental health challenges. The Hive community is more of a 'cult' than a decentralized platform. These are concerns shared by many, though not everyone feels comfortable voicing them as the downvotes will come Hive is a dying project.

We hope the downvoting us makes you feel better LOL the truth is the truth.

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Hive clowns

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[-]themarkymark (80) yesterday (edited)
Farming? Show me where I am farming, I post like one post a month at this point, and all buildawhale is burned. As you say transactions don’t lie. And don't say curation rewards, I'd get those no matter what I vote on and if you expect I will be the only person on this blockchain to forfeit curation rewards, you are dumber than we know you are.

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/seq7ok

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/response-3-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts

https://hive.blog/hive-193084/@bpcvoter1/response-2-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts

!LOL !WEED !GIF !MEME

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-sepr9c

You don't seem it. I've seen this before, it isn't good.

21 hours ago in LeoFinance by themarkymark (80)

[-]bpcvoter1 (-2)(1) yesterday · Will be hidden due to low rating
NO DOWNVOTES FOR MARKY
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[-]themarkymark (80) 16 hours ago
Please talk to your doctor about adjusting your meds. I’m worried about you.

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[-]bpcvoter1 (-2)(1) 27 minutes ago · Will be hidden due to low rating
We are fine
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https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/senppv

https://hive.blog/life/@anomadsoul/re-gogreenbuddy-seqf1p

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slobberchops [-]
gogreenbuddy [-]
cmplxty [-]
shanibeer [-]
antisocialist [-]
azabu [-]
acram64 [-]
mypathtofire [-]
willowranger [-]
bscrypto [-]
dhedge [-]
aaronkroeblinger [-]
lichtkunstfoto [-]
memehub [-]
chekohler [-]
modernzorker [-]
carn [-]
earthsea [-]
pinkhub [-]
kaylinart [-]
and 40 more

https://hive.blog/hive-104387/@bpcvoter3/se19g2

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slobberchops (81)in #life • 6 days ago
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[-]bpcvoter2 (-5)(1) 4 days ago · Will be hidden due to low rating
NO DOWNVOTES FOR MARKY MARK'S SELF VOTING !WEED

https://hive.blog/life/@slobberchops/re-gogreenbuddy-sdr1wb

Just going to leave my response to the one out of thousand previous comments you left today.

People only tolerate you for the votes
Interesting, considering I don't vote anyone.

You vote on you're own spam comments every day @buildawhale to earn curation rewards. There are many authors on Hive whom you could support, but you choose not to you keep it to yourself don't you Marcus? You are no good Marcus.

I used to vote over 200 unique authors a day, many of which my vote was their only significant vote, and for over a year every post and every vote I would make would get downvoted for $50 because someone was sad I stopped the abuse they were voting on. I lost my ability to choose what I vote on years ago. It has finally stopped, so I started the burn posts to reduce the inflation due to the wreckless DHF spending. Of course I earn curation rewards, like every single person on Hive. I will not be the only person on Hive to forfeit curation rewards, and to expect that is ridiculous. You are one to talk about spam comments, you are spamming hundreds if not thousands of comments a day.

2 days ago in LeoFinance by themarkymark (80)$0.00

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-setz65

Response 4 to themarkymark marcus, buildawhale usainvote ipomote leovoter gogreenbuddy, and over 100 of his alt accounts

Reply 2 to @eddiespino

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cwow stop the drink and drugs

Can't you see the problems on Hive?

Hive dropping to $0.000

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On Hive, there are users who use the DHF for personal gain, not genuinely caring about Hive's growth. Tribes may promise much but consistently fall short, leading to disappointment by many who invest time and money. It's puzzling how one can be rewarded for subpar work.

Hive's Decentralized Hive Fund (DHF) is a topic of debate. We feel it's not being utilized effectively, serving more as a resource for various Hive 'farmers'. The concept of voting gangs is also a concern, top Hive farmers and abusers are influencing the trending page.

Hive has a significant amount of unstaked coins, which could impact its price. Transparency and honesty are crucial. There's a fear of speaking up due to potential downvotes, which doesn't align with the idea of true freedom.

Let's work together to make Hive great #onelove Bilpcoin team

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[-]themarkymark (80) yesterday (edited)
Farming? Show me where I am farming, I post like one post a month at this point, and all buildawhale is burned. As you say transactions don’t lie. And don't say curation rewards, I'd get those no matter what I vote on and if you expect I will be the only person on this blockchain to forfeit curation rewards, you are dumber than we know you are.

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/seq7ok

https://www.bilpcoin.com/undefined/@bpcvoter1/response-3-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts

https://hive.blog/hive-193084/@bpcvoter1/response-2-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts

!LOL !WEED !GIF !MEME

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-sepr9c

You don't seem it. I've seen this before, it isn't good.

21 hours ago in LeoFinance by themarkymark (80)

[-]bpcvoter1 (-2)(1) yesterday · Will be hidden due to low rating
NO DOWNVOTES FOR MARKY
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[-]themarkymark (80) 16 hours ago
Please talk to your doctor about adjusting your meds. I’m worried about you.

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[-]bpcvoter1 (-2)(1) 27 minutes ago · Will be hidden due to low rating
We are fine
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https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/senppv

https://hive.blog/life/@anomadsoul/re-gogreenbuddy-seqf1p

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slobberchops [-]
gogreenbuddy [-]
cmplxty [-]
shanibeer [-]
antisocialist [-]
azabu [-]
acram64 [-]
mypathtofire [-]
willowranger [-]
bscrypto [-]
dhedge [-]
aaronkroeblinger [-]
lichtkunstfoto [-]
memehub [-]
chekohler [-]
modernzorker [-]
carn [-]
earthsea [-]
pinkhub [-]
kaylinart [-]
and 40 more

https://hive.blog/hive-104387/@bpcvoter3/se19g2

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slobberchops (81)in #life • 6 days ago
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[-]bpcvoter2 (-5)(1) 4 days ago · Will be hidden due to low rating
NO DOWNVOTES FOR MARKY MARK'S SELF VOTING !WEED

https://hive.blog/life/@slobberchops/re-gogreenbuddy-sdr1wb

Just going to leave my response to the one out of thousand previous comments you left today.

People only tolerate you for the votes
Interesting, considering I don't vote anyone.

You vote on you're own spam comments every day @buildawhale to earn curation rewards. There are many authors on Hive whom you could support, but you choose not to you keep it to yourself don't you Marcus? You are no good Marcus.

I used to vote over 200 unique authors a day, many of which my vote was their only significant vote, and for over a year every post and every vote I would make would get downvoted for $50 because someone was sad I stopped the abuse they were voting on. I lost my ability to choose what I vote on years ago. It has finally stopped, so I started the burn posts to reduce the inflation due to the wreckless DHF spending. Of course I earn curation rewards, like every single person on Hive. I will not be the only person on Hive to forfeit curation rewards, and to expect that is ridiculous. You are one to talk about spam comments, you are spamming hundreds if not thousands of comments a day.

2 days ago in LeoFinance by themarkymark (80)$0.00

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-bpcvoter1-setz65

Response 4 to themarkymark marcus, buildawhale usainvote ipomote leovoter gogreenbuddy, and over 100 of his alt accounts

Reply 2 to @eddiespino

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cwow stop the drink and drugs

Can't you see the problems on Hive?

Hive dropping to $0.000

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Excellent break down! Personally, I just continue to play in Wild (manually) as I want to keep playing the cards that I own. With 240k SPS stakes that gets me around 4-5 SPS + 700 or so glints each battle. The increase in SPS since the entry fee pretty much resulted in a lower SPS price and lower earnings.

If anything, the main thing that needs to be done by the team is to make sure old cards retain their value better and nobody in their right mind is going to buy new packs as it's a sure thing to get crushed.

Good Luck in Modern!

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If anything, the main thing that needs to be done by the team is to make sure old cards retain their value better and nobody in their right mind is going to buy new packs as it's a sure thing to get crushed.

Perfectly agree with you and the main problem to be solved is just the loss of value of early edition cards because otherwise every time the cards come out of Modern they will lose a lot of value = disincentive to buy packs of cards.
Logically there should be more incentive for Wild (by removing bots) than Modern...
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STOP THE ABUSE ON HIVE

FAKE HIVE POLICE

HIVE IS DEAD

HIVE IS ONE BIG FARM

!LOL !WEED !MEME !GIF

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willowranger [-]
bscrypto [-]
dhedge [-]
aaronkroeblinger [-]
lichtkunstfoto [-]
memehub [-]
chekohler [-]
modernzorker [-]
carn [-]
earthsea [-]
pinkhub [-]
kaylinart [-]
and 40 more

https://hive.blog/hive-104387/@bpcvoter3/se19g2

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slobberchops (81)in #life • 6 days ago
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[-]bpcvoter2 (-5)(1) 4 days ago · Will be hidden due to low rating
NO DOWNVOTES FOR MARKY MARK'S SELF VOTING !WEED

https://hive.blog/life/@slobberchops/re-gogreenbuddy-sdr1wb

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive/

https://peakd.com/hive-164833/@bilpcoinbpc/you-have-all-witnessed-this-account-being-downvoted-to-a-negative-reputation-for-no-reason

SHAME ON YOU ALL SAD PEOPLE WHO SCAM LIE AND FARM HIVE AND HIVERS

[-]acidyo (82) 3 months ago
Haha at "I shouldn't make commercial" :D Maybe something to worry about when you have more youtube subscribers! Quite interesting content though, these things should get more subs on there and here.

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[-]gogreenbuddy (67) 3 months ago
Yeah thought that was funny too

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acidyo: $0.06
holbein81: $0.01
koleso: -$0.00

https://hive.blog/life/@gogreenbuddy/i-had-to-give-up-on-my-gabion-fencing-too-much-work

@themarkymark @buildawhale @upmyvote @ipromote @gogreenbuddy @usainvote @punkteam @makerhacks @apeminingclub @leovoter @blockheadgamds @rollingbones farm @cwow2 @solominer @steevc @adm @abit @theycallmedan @dalz @abh12345

HE MAKES CURATION REWARDS WITH ALL HIS ALT ACCOUNTS BURNING TOKENS LIKE THIS DOES NOT TAKE OLD TOKENS IT MINTS NEW ONES AND BURNS THEM

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/the-power

https://www.bilpcoin.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/the-power

https://www.bilpcoin.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/response-4-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts

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cwow stop the drink and drugs

Stop supporting the fake Hive police who do nothing but exploit Hive

Many people on Hive will never get to spend any of their Hive as it may become illegal in certain countries

Looking at Hive from the outside, it looks like trash let just be honest there are issues. Not many people would be interested in coming to Hive to read blogs let's be honest

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thanks for the support
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acram64 [-]
mypathtofire [-]
willowranger [-]
bscrypto [-]
dhedge [-]
aaronkroeblinger [-]
lichtkunstfoto [-]
memehub [-]
chekohler [-]
modernzorker [-]
carn [-]
earthsea [-]
pinkhub [-]
kaylinart [-]
and 40 more

https://hive.blog/hive-104387/@bpcvoter3/se19g2

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[-]bpcvoter2 (-5)(1) 4 days ago · Will be hidden due to low rating
NO DOWNVOTES FOR MARKY MARK'S SELF VOTING !WEED

https://hive.blog/life/@slobberchops/re-gogreenbuddy-sdr1wb

https://www.publish0x.com/the-dark-side-of-hive

https://www.reddit.com/r/stoptheabuseonhive/

https://peakd.com/hive-164833/@bilpcoinbpc/you-have-all-witnessed-this-account-being-downvoted-to-a-negative-reputation-for-no-reason

SHAME ON YOU ALL SAD PEOPLE WHO SCAM LIE AND FARM HIVE AND HIVERS

[-]acidyo (82) 3 months ago
Haha at "I shouldn't make commercial" :D Maybe something to worry about when you have more youtube subscribers! Quite interesting content though, these things should get more subs on there and here.

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[-]gogreenbuddy (67) 3 months ago
Yeah thought that was funny too

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gogreenbuddy: $4.47
acidyo: $0.06
holbein81: $0.01
koleso: -$0.00

https://hive.blog/life/@gogreenbuddy/i-had-to-give-up-on-my-gabion-fencing-too-much-work

@themarkymark @buildawhale @upmyvote @ipromote @gogreenbuddy @usainvote @punkteam @makerhacks @apeminingclub @leovoter @blockheadgamds @rollingbones farm @cwow2 @solominer @steevc @adm @abit @theycallmedan @dalz @abh12345

HE MAKES CURATION REWARDS WITH ALL HIS ALT ACCOUNTS BURNING TOKENS LIKE THIS DOES NOT TAKE OLD TOKENS IT MINTS NEW ONES AND BURNS THEM

https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/the-power

https://www.bilpcoin.com/hive-167922/@bilpcoinbpc/the-power

https://www.bilpcoin.com/hive-167922/@bpcvoter1/response-4-to-themarkymark-marcus-buildawhale-usainvote-ipomote-leovoter-gogreenbuddy-and-over-100-of-his-alt-accounts

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Reply to @eddiespino

cwow stop the drink and drugs

Stop supporting the fake Hive police who do nothing but exploit Hive

Many people on Hive will never get to spend any of their Hive as it may become illegal in certain countries

Looking at Hive from the outside, it looks like trash let just be honest there are issues. Not many people would be interested in coming to Hive to read blogs let's be honest

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I'm also going through a massive analysis of the viability of my 2 alternate accounts. They are simple GF silver CL deck and RF gold CL deck, so there is no room to play them in modern against mostly max decks.

But then in Wild then don't have the SPS stake and old cards to be competitive enough to make up for the 2x new staking requirements + battle pass. Not to mention battle services are raising their prices too.

The taxes are growing and less SPS is making it back to my staking account. Maybe it would all be better used to rent and earn DEC to spend on upgrades for my main deck. I would really miss brawling with my alt accounts though. It would be sad to give that up if I decided to rent out my alt accounts. Those brawls keep me engaged!

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Wild Pass does not like it as a solution, but the big problem to be solved, in my opinion, is to find a way to restore value and usefulness to the early edition cards otherwise the next packs will not be bought by anyone because the cards every time they come out of Modern will lose most of their value...

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High level tournament play, old format tournament series, brawl frays will all have a role to play in this going forward.

I can imagine a time when the SPSDAO is using its "promotion packs" as tournament prizes for single-elim, on-demand events in DEC to get back the sticker price on those packs. Would make for entertaining combat and another way people can play higher-stakes battles with their hard-earned game assets!

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I think the findings are more or less inline with what I thought would happen. Wild is getting harder due to the removal of some bots/real players. I noticed that you didn't really say anything about Glint but I think that Wild is better for Glint while Modern is better for SPS.

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Yes in my test I did not show the glints but I noticed that they are slightly higher in Modern with the same alloy

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Caro @libertycrypto27, so che sei contrario al Wild Pass, ma contesto :) questa tua affermazione che è una delle poche che gioca a suo favore:

il costo del Wild Pass è facilmente copribile con i guadagni in SPS

Non è assolutamente vero. Lo è per te e pochi altri giocatori. Sicuramente non lo è per la maggioranza.

Non tutti hanno 48mila SPS da tenere in staking per ottenere le reward in sps che hai ottenuto tu. Al valore, già basso attualmente, dell'SPS occorre tener fermi oltre 300 dollari per averli. Per guadagnare cosa? 115 dec in 15 giorni? Meno di 8 dec al giorno? Possiamo tranquillamente dire che giocare il wild format è attualmente un costo e non un guadagno. Se 300 dollari li tengo in saving di HBD alla fine del mese mi trovo 5 dollari in più, non 230 dec, pari a 15 centesimi. E sono molto più garantiti.

Al momento attuale ho circa 10mila SPS in stake. Man mano che li ottenevo ne vendevo la meta, per fortuna. Se non l'avessi fatto ne avrei ora circa 20mila, quindi non credo che sarei stato comunque in profitto. Considera che con i miei 10mila SPS in stake sono, secondo Peakmonster, al rank 5024 della classifica di coloro che ne hanno. Quanti sono i giocatori che hanno 48mila SPS in stake e quindi possono acquistare il WILD PASS senza andare in perdita?

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il costo del Wild Pass è facilmente copribile con i guadagni in SPS

Assolutamente non intendevo dire che è universalmente copribile ma solo in funzione del mio test e cioè con gli assets che ho mostrato e con cui ho fatto il mio test.
Però i tuoi commenti sono sempre utili perchè è più corretto che correggo quella frase aggiungendo "utilizzando lo stake in SPS e gli assets che ho usato nel mio test".

Ma il grande problema da risolvere olre ai bots e al wild pass è secondo me quello di trovare il modo di ridare valore e utilità alle carte delle prime edizioni altrimenti i prossimi pacchi non li comprerà nessuno perchè le carte ogni volta che usciranno dal Modern perderanno gran parte del loro valore...

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Sostengo da tempo che secondo me non devono più uscire nuove carte, soprattutto non più nuovi set. Potrebbero uscire nuove carte in via eccezionale, per eventi particolari, come quelle dell'halving (non è una carta nuova ogni 4 anni che farà danno) o sponsorizzazioni particolari, ma non nuovi set. E le poche nuove carte non devono essere più forti delle attuali.

Devono esser stampate riedizioni delle carte vecchie (un po' come si fece con l'edizione A e B) mantenendo le proporzioni fra giocatori attivi e numero di carte complessivo e fra le diverse carte, al limite con piccoli ritocchi per ottimizzare laddove necessario.

I reward quindi dovrebbero contenere meno carte e più sps e/o dec per comprare/affittare carte, ridando vitalità al mercato. Se SPS e Dec perdono valore pazienza, l'asset da conservare sono le carte. Di cui ci si disferà solo nel momento in cui si vorrà uscire definitivamente dal gioco. Splinterlands è un gioco e non deve privilegiare la speculazione sul token.

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As a beginner, is it better to go for the wild or Modern format??

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absolutely modern format and you you should focus on some cards from the chaos legion edition that cost little and are useful in the game

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I think you've made the right decision. If I had the money, I'd probably choose to migrate to modern as it's a better choice if you ask me. The cost of modern penality for even human players is terrible and unfortunately splinterlands hasn't really solved this bot situation.

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Yes my friend Splinterlands should only think about real players instead of countering bots in a soft way
!ALIVE
!PIZZA

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I like to read all your assessments, because it gives an idea how profitable is a project, but this one was amazing! Great job and tahnks for doing it! 😉

I wish the SPLD team also read your blog, but most importantly this sentence, which is very true!

'Any solution that affects bots but also real players is never an optimal solution in my opinion!'

I couldn't agree more!!! 💪

ps: I love your setup there! 😇

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Thank you my friend and I am glad you agree with my thoughts about wild pass and bots
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!PIZZA

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