RE: Luigi Mangione is a Murderer

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You have some good points, but I also think some points that aren't that easy.

I mean, Murder is a no-go! Full stop! In my country, as I would expect this to be the case in your country, not too many people are murdered anyway, but I never heard of some insurance CEO being murdered because of the system. That said, the CEO of a Health Insurance company isn't earning ridiculous amounts of money in my country, their salaries and bonuses are capped, more or less, to perhaps something like 5x modal income.

We have a society-wide standard healthcare system, partially private and partially not. Ie the government controls what must be insured for everyone, and everyone is forced to get insurance with one of the private insurance companies. This results in more overhead, more marketing costs, more management and such. It also results in certain treatments not being carried out. But is the latter bad? I mean, someone can go to the USA, Belgium, Germany, UK or Switzerland to be treated, or even in my own country (Netheralnds), but only in private clinics, for own costs, I mean, the insurance not paying for it. Always an option to get treated, I mean.

Waiting times is one to look at (yes, we do have them in my country as well). Quality of Healthcare is another metric to look at. Life expectancy is yet another metric to look at. Accessibility is just another element to factor in. On all these, the USA is not doing well, especially compared to other countries.

Ultimetaly it is a society/political choice how we want to help (or not) society concerning healthcare. Should it be a system accessible to those with money alone? Or also to the poorest of the poor (of which the USA has plenty of people, also in relative terms).

Do you really think everyone enjoys paying for chain smokers and alcoholics and abortions?

Always an interesting topic. The question is: Where to draw th line in a system everybody has health insurrance or get 100% free healthcare (tax paid healthcare), in a system you are in, and I am in (tax paid healthcare with a personal contribution based on level of income). I mean, someone riding a race bike as a hobby sport and ends up in hospital every so often because of an accident? What about people who cant drive a car well? What about the pedestrian in a city who just walks around? All of them have higher change of ending up in the hospital to someone else not doing those things. Not to mention, all the people who eat bad food, are overweighted and such that.

Am not saying what is the best system, but it is too easy to determine just based on: money rules, or waiting times.



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Thank you for your comment, you bring up many good points! Both systems have pros and cons, neither is perfect by any means.

But see, I like the point that you made, your country has private and public. I would like that here as well, to have the option. Canada has only recently starting putting out private clinics and some people are up in arms about it. If you can afford "better" healthcare for you and your family, why wouldn't you?

I feel a lot of it may be a "crab bucket effect," "I have it bad so you can't have it better than me." People who believe healthcare should be equal to everyone, but it simply can't. Some people are born rich, some people pursue wealthy careers early in life, some people are given once in a lifetime opportunities.

The last thing someone should have when it comes to healthcare is a victim-complex. I understand it's not always possible, but if you value a better state of life, then pursue it at whatever means necessary instead of blaming others! Or at the most, killing them 😩

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