ECOBANK 2024 Round up

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Sigh.

There is no project that weighs heavier on me than ECOBANK. What a year it has been, what have we learned?

I have touched on this in other posts, but one lesson I have learned is that "real estate" requires work, and is not nearly so "passive" as people claim. I even maybe thought I knew this, and mitigated this with a management partner, but let's just say that extracting value from our property requires more work than I anticipated.

In fact, the heavy weight to produce "no update updates" has made me think a lot about the incentives and pressures to rug, ghost or cop out. Of course I would never do any of these things with my baby ECOBANK, but I can see much clearer now how token developers casually promise themselves into unpaid future labor with which they become increasingly embittered until they can justify some escape strategy.

I can compare ECOBANK with INCOME, where everything is flowing beautifully, or even to ARMERO, where whether good or bad developments, there is a clear mission to make decisions and adjustments from, transparent ledger, and thus a base to post about at least a few times a year. ECOBANK is stagnant, and in the void of both liquidity and public response from holders major or minor, echoes disappointment with our inability to capitalize on this cycle of cheap HIVE through ECOBANK.

I had hope! It would have been great. But liquidity for real estate deals is nothing like liquidity for hive-engine tokens. Its very much "non-fungible". One day we will sell it, who knows what the US d price of HIVE will be then? No longer can we hope to get the timing crazy good "this time".

I've been working through these things, I launched an open conversation/contest about project lifecycles. And hopefully we at least made a few people think, because the winner was me, with my discussion of the ARCHON token history with respect to my recent attempts at necromancy.

In defense of ECOBANK - a path forward

"It is what it is"
"Okay then, what is it?"

We are already determined the outlines of what ECOBANK Development Colombia is, and what it represents both for the world of legal structures and for myself personally. "It has a lot of potential", yes I know. While we will continue to manage our assets as best as we can, there is more we can do, much more.

We will strive to fix the liquidity problem with ECOBANK within 2025. Those who are following along know that I am a believer in The Power of Liquidity, so how will we do it?

I have been through this experiment before, and learned a lot with the SWAP.HIVE:INCOME pool. Initially, I needed the account to provide the liquidity match, so I straight out bought 1000 tokens from the company and they paired it with another 1000. But more and more now I am able to apply the liquidity myself, freeing that corporate capital for the program. Something like this we must develop into a "liquidity roadmap" for ECOBANK.

Liquidity roadmap

The pool I have in mind is ECOBANK:SWAP.HBD. Its the only pool that makes sense in terms of ratio, which is how IL get's a bad name. I will be able to create this pool as early as end of january, using @locolombia mining rewards as a top hive-engine witness.

I have liked to imagine something like VSC or another option would be on the table before making this decision, but time marches ever onward and we will have to deal and discuss the details with the devil we know instead of waiting for an angel we have yet to meet. I will be providing a guide at the appropriate time for best practices with SWAP.HBD.

But simply put, here is our liquidity:

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By various means and methods ECOBANK has managed to acquire over $5000 dollars in tokens in addition to our landed properties. By matching with unminted ECOBANK tokens, we could theoretically immediately start providing over $10,000 dollar of liquidity pool depth.

We will start a power down in January 2025.

I eagerly anticipate your comments and feedback in the meantime, and forgive me for being blunt - especially from holders of the token. I am fine with others commenting but understand that you will be sorted according to priority in these types of posts.

You see, I have not finalized all the exact moves in the exact order yet - there is plenty of room to both "read the room" as well as adapt to the realities that emerge.

Freedom and Friendship



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That's surely a huge project. Ecobank use to be the name of a bank in Nigeria

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I found something about that on the google search! Could you tell me more? had you heard about it before? what is the story of this Ecobank?

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It's just the name of a private bank company in Nigeria. It has been in existence since 1985

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Do they give good loan rates? Or do anything "ecological"ly minded that you know of?

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I do not know about their loan rates or if they're ecologically engaged. Maybe you could send them a mail to give you accurate answers.

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Will you write to them and ask for me? I will give dem upvotes 😍

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Your upvote is too large, it won't fit in the envelope.
Unless you plan to stick it under the stamp somehow.
Sending mail was easier in 1985.

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Haha. You can upvote them if they are on Hive.
Writing them is what I could do but I don't know if I can actually present questions the way you would.
So, maybe you give me a good trainingon your project as your Business Development Representative or Research Associate and I believe there will be a fair salary and not upvotes.

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Very good to see an EOY 2024 update, @ecoinstant. As for this:

"... and forgive me for being blunt - especially from holders of the token."

I can't speak for others, but I prefer candor and straight talk. Which is what you have provided in this post. While I am a shareholder, I would say this irregardless ...

Keep it coming!

I appreciate the thought you have given to providing liquidity for ECOBANK. I have always found you to be trustworthy. And prudent ...

If you think you can accomplish this, while not hurting your ECOBANK vision overall, then I am all for it. Hive's L2 tokens are "famous" for their "Hotel California" characteristics, i.e. how illiquid they are ... If you can make a viable market in ECOBANK, that would be an achievement in and of itself.

Future updates would then provide the same "fuel" for this free market to "move" like any other investment IRL.

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I can't speak for others, but I prefer candor and straight talk.

I SO agree with this!!! Please tell me straight or just stop talking.....

Is my Motto :D

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Yes, absolutely. If nothing else, it saves a lot of time. And ... Making an assumption here, Mom ... 😉 ... at our age, we need to save all the time we can! Hahaha ...

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Wishing you and the community the best on your upcoming project. Keep up the awesome work bro !BBH !LOLZ !PIZZA

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I read this.
and read again.
and I know you tried to make this very clear.
but
you know me
soooooooo
That means you get to call me on New Years to explain it to me so I understand.
I know it's your favorite things to do.
Love,
Your Mom

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Personally I don’t expect dividends or regular cash flow, especially if the real estate just isn’t mature enough yet.

If the property is worth relative what you paid for it or more, than the value is there. No reason to remove value from what you are doing until it’s mature enough to do so.

Let it cook!

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It's a great idea to try to capitalize on the current HIVE market movements, whether cheap or expensive HIVE is the place.

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ECOBANK looks good, the vision is fine and I will follow the progress.

!BBH

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ECOBANK is stagnant, and in the void of both liquidity and public response from holders major or minor, echoes disappointment with our inability to capitalize on this cycle of cheap HIVE through ECOBANK.

No regrets, it has been a pleasant hedge against 10c HIVE so far.

Fast forward a few months, BTC is 250k, Hive is testing double digits, idiots are buying and sharps are taking profits. What is the gameplan for the time when Hive regs start looking for a suitable place to park five or six digits for the next cycle? Are you ready to expand accordingly?

As for the liquidity issue, trading in stablecoin helps in times of extreme volatility like these days. Still, I do not think it is the principal longterm issue. Lack of attention and frequency of ABV updates are major challenges.

Legacy stock exchanges would trade illiquid assets in rare (monthly or even less frequent) sessions. How about mimicking the behaviour with a HPUD-like campaign?

Or go further and set up a monthly trading pool for price discovery. Everyone can send in some ECOBANK and some HIVE into a pool. They state their ECOBANK/HIVE price (encrypted). When the auction finds the price, participants either get funds back in ECOBANK or HIVE depending on everyone else's price demands.

Controversial (read: Fun) twists come to mind. You skip the trading session? No problem. No divs this month, though.

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Was really fishing for a response from you! Some golden ideas I will definitely circle back to.

I would be very interested in increasing the "frequency of ABV updates", if I can find a framework that doesn't seem forced or speculative. We have two properties, a legal structure and bank account, binance account and HIVE wallet. Many of these things are quite easy to measure.

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Okay, let's fast forward in our minds.

First, it had occurred to me that this "model" does not require other people, not really. I have every expectation to six figure my way through this vehicle when these times come.

I still believe the other people are valuable. Its hard for me to express how valuable this comment at this time is to me.

Let's go to one million dollars and play with this new thing I learned called without losing generality.

The vehicle is road-legal and will deliver fresh capital into the environment, foreign direct investment which does not incur tariff nor penalty.

What should we do with it? I have heard a few ideas from members of the fund, I will work up a post in january with the ideas so far and solicit more feedback.

I have, over the last 3 years tried my hand with my own money at micro investing in small local projects. Recycling Center, Fungal Laboratory, 3 microloans to farmers, Tree Nursury (low altitude branch). Mini-eco"bank" style ideas. To a man the results were disappointing, probably leaving hard asset real estate heavily favored again this cycle. Of course I have a list of properties I am interested in.

Building infrastructure, like cabins, we are looking at ~$10k usd per unit. +/- is high depending on what cabin means in your language and preference, but this is the number I have kept coming up within 20% of.

Admin runway on a seven "cabin" set up is calculable. We'll have the budget to create a team of people dedicated to helping me manage these assets.

Eg Off the top of my head for Christmas I want:

3 man admin team total 4k/month x 12 = 48k usd
(property manager, executive assistant and go-fer)

7 cabin set up on our Lerida property: 70k usd
60ha property adjacent for sale (Ecological Corridor Expansion): 200k usd

Murillo Hotel Property: 125k usd (has tenant)

Warehouse Property, Libano urban: 110k
Build out Warehouse: ~35k

Liquidity Pool: ~312k + matched w/ECOBANK
HBD savings buffer: 100k usd

Total :$1 Million dollars

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