Genealogy: William of Montferrat (1172-1225)
I'm experimenting with posting some random bits of my genealogy research here with the goal of eventually creating a linked family tree on Hive. You can see the index here.
This is yet another individual that is far enough back that the only way you'll find him in a family tree is if there is a royal relationship somewhere. When first creating a family tree, typically you'll just branch out in the ancestor direction meaning the further back you go, the more ancestors there are to find in that generation. However, as you start to look for cousin relationship (basically, descendants of non-direct ancestors like multiple-great uncles and aunts) then the opposite starts to occur and you'll branch out with many more relations at all levels of your tree with there being more the closer you get to the present. At least that's how it was with me. When I first started getting into genealogy, I just wanted to see how far back I could go. I haven't given up on that but now I'm also exploring those cousin relationships.
Anyway, other than dates, I haven't collected a whole lot of info on Gugilelmo (or William) of Montferrat VI. According to Gramps, he is my sixth cousin nineteen time removed. I can tell from the way I have my charts (genograms) laid out that he is also a direct ancestor but must be more generations back than I have Gramps set up to count.
I use GenoPro to maintain my family tree but I use other programs to generate reports/web pages. Gramps is open source software for Windows, Linux and MacOS that I have been using to generate static HTML reports and is what the info you see below is based on. I also use its relationship calculator functionality as noted above. I've also been exploring GedSite, a program that takes a gedcom file and converts it into html, and The Next Generation of Genealogy Sitebuilding which is web based and requires a setup with a web server, PHP and mySQL. Mostly I've been playing around with TNG which is excellent but I'll get back to GedSite eventually.
I actually like TNG enough that I have contemplated just using that as my only reporting software. However, there are a few reasons why I probably won't. First, it's "closed source" commercial software whereas Gramps is open source. Second, Gramps generates pure HTML/Javascript so that it is easy to copy and move around whereas TNG relies on having a database and web server. Finally, it's easier to extract data out of for adding here, for example. While I have been using GenoPro and Gramps for many years, I've only started using TNG and GedSite within the last year or so.
The chart at the top is an ancestry chart out to four generations from Gramps. The chart at the bottom is a descendancy chart out to four generations as produced by TNG. The index of all individuals I have posted so far can be found here.
The Skaggs-Files
of Montferrat, Guglielmo VI
| Birth Name | of Montferrat, Guglielmo VI |
| Gender | male |
| Age at Death | 53 years, 8 months, 16 days |
Events
| Event | Date | Place | Description | Sources |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Birth | 1172 | Monferrato, Italy | 1 | |
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| Death | 1225-09-17 | 1 | ||
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Age: 53y |
Parents
| Relation to main person | Name | Birth date | Death date | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Father | di Montferrat, Bonifacio I (II) | 1150 | 1207-09-04 | |
| Mother | di Busca, Elena | 1151 | 1204 | |
| of Montferrat, Guglielmo VI | 1172 | 1225-09-17 | ||
| Sister | de Montferrat, Agnes | 1187 |
Families
Family of of Montferrat, Guglielmo VI and Cortemiglia, Berta Clavesana Mambascaro |
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| Married | Wife | Cortemiglia, Berta Clavesana Mambascaro ( * 1182 + 1224 ) | ||||||||||||
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| Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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| of Montferrat, Bonifacio III | 1202 | 1255-12-12 |
Pedigree
Ancestors
Generated by Gramps AIO64-5.1.5-1
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Sounds like we're distant cousins, my family on my mother's side goes back to Charlemagne!
Genealogy can be a fun hobby but it takes up a lot of time. At least these days you can find tons of stuff online. I started working on my family tree probably around 2001 and it now has 90,000+ individuals in it. But before the Internet, if you wanted to trace your family tree, you generally had to go to the town where your ancestor was born or died to get the information you needed to get to the next generation back. I guess that's fine if you have the time, money and desire to do that kind of traveling...or your family lived in the same place for 1,000 years. Otherwise, it was a real pain.
A lot of mine was done by older family members who flew to Europe and dug through old documents and searched grave yards. Now it's easy as can be! Much of my family came from Sweden and still needs research not online yet, meaning someone who speaks Swedish would have to go through old documents in churches and libraries.