BAN for send CC!!!
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Everybody who would send CC to another user will be banned in the future.
Buy and Sell or work form them. Sending is our guard for spamers like we did seen.
We save you and the project with this function from people who would farm the coins.
Thank you for understanding it.
Your CC Team
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Sounds fair. I bought my first 10
[@alucian] Very nice. Welcome to the CC Project.
If you want to buy some CC you should set a buy order on the steem-enigne and wait for the sellers.
Have a nice day.
Alucian
Thank you. I did :)
Versteh ich nicht kannst du das auf deutsch erklären ? Ich mein ich verstehe was du damit erreichen willst aber das ist ein drastischer Einschnitt
LG
Jan
Technisch wird nicht viel übrig bleiben als Möglichkeit. Wenn sich jemand auf diese Weise bereichert, können wir auch nicht tatenlos zusehen. Wir haben heute den ganzen Nachmittag herumgerätselt was wir noch machen könnten um Spamern das Leben zu erschweren. Den CC soll man kaufen und verkaufen oder sich verdienen.
Wenn man 500 CC kauft und sich diese dann selbst mit einem anderem Account aus userer Wallet belohnt, könnte man auf einen Ban von uns einfach diese 1000 an das nächste Account paar schicken und das spiel wiederholen. Rechne dir mal aus was der Schaden ist, wenn wir das nicht schnell genug bemerken...
Da geht in einer Stunde schon gut was. Hat man ja die letzten Tage gesehen. Der Typ hat über 1000 CC gestohlen insgesamt. Wenn er sie verkauft. Nimmt er den ehrlichen Nutzern ihren Lohn ab....
Die Maßnahme ist jetzt erst mal am fertig stellen, ist nicht so leicht nur die Transaktionen von Acc zu Acc zu sperren und alles andere zu erlauben. Klar ist es blöd das zu machen, außer Frage ein einschnitt. Aber wie sonst sollen wir das System weiter schützen lernen als Hürden einzubauen, die ein Ausnutzen mit der Zeit unrentabel machen?
Hört sich nach einem echten Drama an.
!Dramatoken
!COFFEEA
Totales Drama. :-)
Ideal wäre, wenn man nur 1x einen CC pro Post bekommt, normalerweise schreibt ja auch nur einen Kommentar auf der ersten Ebene. Technisch wohl nicht so einfach zu machen.
Das war auch eine Überlegung. Der Bot würde dann extrem viel zu tun haben und somit Geschwindigkeit einbüßen und auch die Fehlerquote erhöht werden. Die Erfahrungen die wir jetzt sammeln, können wir bei einem erfolgreichem Start der SMT´s entsprechend in ein besseres System umsetzen. Kostet halt auch alles und wir machen das für Lau bzw. zahlen wir schön drauf. Wie es eben auf dem Steem normal ist. :-)
Liebe Grüße
Sascha
Sorry hallo kannst du mir das noch mal in einfachen Worten erklären ich habe das nicht verstanden wie meinst du das 500cc zu einem anderen Account schicken und sich dann von eurer Wallet belohnen lassen?
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Wir geben denn Kommentatoren die CC nicht derjenige der den Hashtag benutzt!!!
Das heist man kauft sich nur die "Erlaubnis" den Hashtag zu nutzen und sonst gar nichts. Das ist so, weil der Steem dezentral ist und wir keine "Macht" über die Accounts haben. Sonst könnten wir den Nutzern die CC für die belohnten Kommentare abziehen.
Wenn also jemand farmt und damit CC aus unserer Wallet stiehlt, dann kann er einfach an einen anderen die Erlaubnis in form der geschickten CC weitergeben auch zu farmen... und so weiter. Das würde einen beträchtlichen Schaden anrichten können. Weil uns die CC am Ende fehlen und dann der markt mit unehrlichen CC geflutet werden kann wovon wieder die Käufer also auch wir(CCTeam) am meisten betroffen sind. Ergo würde der Preis gegen null gehen wenn wir das zulassen und nicht einschränken.
Ich weis, gar nicht so leicht zu verstehen. Aber es ist auch kein leichtes Unterfangen dieses Projekt erfolgreich zu machen und damit die Interaktion auf dem Steem zu vermehren. Denn das ist und bleibt das Ziel.
Vielen Dank! Das leuchtet mir ein. Also kaufen und verkaufen ist ok aber senden nicht wegen dem potentiellen Missbrauch. Danke jetzt habe ich es verstanden. !invest_vote
Doch kannst wieder senden. Aber wir bauen dran das man es nicht mehr so leicht ausnutzen kann.
@mima2606 denkt du hast ein Vote durch @investinthefutur verdient
@jedigeiss Du hasst Dein Antwort mittlerweile bekommen? LG @wakeupkitty
OK. That makes sense. I hope you can put that rule on the comment that you put on everyone's post so that it is clear to all the users.
Yes I agree as I diidn't think it was a problem.
@melinda010100 I wrote a post and left the new rule as a comment to.some who do or intended to give it as a prize/reward.
It would advice to write these changes same as the amount needed in the comment. At this moment there are too many changes in a short period. Thanks. ❤️
Will do!
@alucian I hope this gets sorted soon. There has to be a better way to address this than banning. This needs an immediate solution.
Ban function is declined for send. But we will not cry it out to loud. ;-)
I will be watching for abusers!
@melinda010100 You can transfer Commentcoin again. No ban. Those banned are unbanned.Greetings @wakeupkitty
I didn't realise it was a problem. I sent some to a school in Venezuela who are in need of food as I wanted to help them. They cannot get online much as the electricity is often off.
I was going to earn some each day and send them a few but I will sell them and send them the STEEMP instead.
The Problem was the post of Commentcoin before this...
Sorry for the mistake my friend. but we need to save the project. I know we border the usecase of it, and i do not go with it too. But what we should do? It is not so easy to save us from spamers.
Tell me how we can help you if you know it.
@musicvoter At the moment we cannot change this. The only way is to send them Steem. You can sell the Commentcoin first. Greetings @wakeupkitty
Okay good to know this is a great thing you guys are doing
Thanky you, we do our best. Two Guys and two Girls we are. :-) Work on it.
Thanks for dropping a note, did not realize a certain number were required to use tag, have purchased and waiting for the account to top up through steem-engine.
Yes, if you buy 500 CC you can reward 500 CC from our wallet to your commenters as a example. That is why we save every CC we can. :-)
Still learning about CC, thanks for explanation.
@joanstewart You are welcome. At the moment you need 40 to use the tag 1x. Soon it might be 80. Please read the messages at @commentcoin or on my acvount. We wish you great commentators! Greetings @wakeupkitty
Oh, God, no. :-) We do not mean you the "good" users. We are doing this because of the thieves of the CC. They steal coins by buying them and using them on a massive scale. That's why we have made sending more difficult. It is only one of the few possibilities we have to take action against it.
Sorry for the problems we made with it.
Ah, is this why you need 40 ccs now instead of 10?
No this is just a deflation system like the Bitcoins one. Or wish you a inflation system?
@thekittygirl It was allowed before. So did I even gave it as a price to those who joined my contest.
The rules are changed because Steemians steal CC. This is done to keep the damage for all of us as small as possible. Greetings @wakeupkitty
I have been thinking about this since yesterday and I actually think it's a very bad idea. It's a form of censorship and I find it quite a negative thing to do.
The whole point of Steem Engine is to allow the trading and sending of tokens and to threaten people with a ban for using a built in feature of the system leaves me feeling a bit bullied to be honest.
The way to build value is to do more marketing not to enforce draconian rules.
I was really excited about CC but I am starting to lose that excitement now.
Belive me, i do not like the idea too. But building it save from farmers, makes somthing needed we do. Savedty first. If someone farm CC he can destroy the system in a few hours it is bigger... Now he can make demage too, but he do not can spread this any more...
So ban the farmers not EVERYBODY that sends it!
Yes, we ban the farmers manually. AFTER farming... But i do not think we banned some other one in the last days. Or did you get a message from the service you are banned from CC Project?
No I have not got a message but this post says you are going to ban EVERYONE who sends CC. That is a TERRRIBLE idea.
And you banned @wakeupkitty! They were helping you!!
I agree with you. Only few options are left to promote and give newbies a chance to join.
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Dios, es terrible todo esto. Tu ayudas y luego pasas a ser castigada. No entiendo??
@gertu No estoy prohibido ... lo escribí porque dijeron que lo harías si transfieres Commentcoin. Fue lo que hice y no soy el único. Sabían que quiero darlo como recompensa por mi concurso. Más personas escribieron que lo compraron y ayudaron a otros con él. Esta es una nueva regla desde hace 4 (?) Días. Algunas personas codiciosas, estafadores, lo estropean para muchos. Eso me hace triste.
Si. A mi también me da pena. Que algunas personas luchen por hacer crecer a los más pequeños y, luego siempre están los de corazón duro, dañando todo lo bueno.
Gracias a Dios, no fuiste penalizada, me preocupó.
@gertu Ayer vi que escribieron !unban debajo de mi publicación.
Bueno, todos pueden transferir Commentcoin nuevamente.
This may require some parameters to be set
In some countries
Send little Gifting is a custom
Such as chatting between friends
He said that it has 37, owe 3
Someone will say that I send 3 for you.
Or when chatting
Answered his question
He is very happy and he will send a few coins
This situation
In some groups
Often occur
Friends often occasionally send coins to express gratitude.
So it should set some parameters
In a few coins or accidental situations
It should be ok
Because most people won't know which coins can not to send.
or
When it happens
First write a warning to inform the people
Otherwise it is easy to error
[@alucian] You are right with that and we work for a better solution with this problem. For now we have no other big farmer on the project. The funktion is not running in this moment. You can send CC!
If we got News for you, we tell it all.
Thank you for your understatement!
Have a nice day.
Alucian
I know that you are currently consulting everyone.
I agree with your approach.
Would consult everyone first
So I provided my opinion
I think transferred out should be limited
It’s like banks also would prevent money laundering
such as .....
How many can be transferred out of one time?
How many can be transferred daily?
How much can I transfer to the same person?
Can use Programs to prohibit excess place
@cloudblade I asdume you have a discussion with @alucian? Greetings @wakeupkitty
Yes I agree. They shouldn't ban it completely but just ban people who are sending 100s a day to game the system.
Sorry but I feel insulted. You BAN me because I give/gave Commentcoin as a prize in my contest?
Thank you for not letting me know earlier. I promoted and stimulated many to use it, buy, asked you @alucian if it can be transferred! This means too I can no longer use it for my other account.
🙁
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WOW they banned you!!!! You were helping them!!
I'm sorry but CC is being managed badly now.
I hope they don't start banning people for giving an opinion too.
I am quite angry because I have supported this initiative and I thought it was a great idea but they are starting to make a lot of mistakes.
do it better....
If you respond to critisism in this way you will not suceed. People have put a lot of effort in to supporting your project and you are insulting them.
Get you a message you are banned?
@alucian This is ironically meant. You actually say I am because Ibtransfer the coin, you knew I gave it as a orize and more did with me, especialky those whio host ccc contests.
You and all other are allowed to transfer...
Thank you @alucian. I join the downvote and left some messages. Pity I am not a big fish dear trevor can break me. So be it. ❤️
!unban
@alucian Thank you. ❤️
I read this too late.
I sent 2 cc to all participants of my contest. I am not expecting that it is against your policy.
I used neozag for prizes and also a plankton tokens but they never ban me.
Now, i will ask question if I could send it as prize or not?
Thank you so much.
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Everybody can send CC, we declined the function. If you banned, you get a message (You are not banned^^) Have a nice day.
I understand on what you are doing. It was just a strategy on how to stop the thieves and avoid farming. It happened to beer when SE was new. What you did was a smart way but a little disappointing point when we found banned while we help promoted like @wakeupkitty.She was the one explaining it to me.
@olivia08 If you are banned you should have received a message. Since yesterday you can transfer again and there is no ban. Greetings @wakeupkitty
Have a small suggestion
Suggest to organize related rules
Put in the same article
Because from listing to now
Seems to change a lot
Some are old rules updated
Some are new rules
They are mentioned in different articles
Unless we read all the articles
Otherwise it will be confused
@cloudblade You refer at the automatic answer given? @alucian is this an idea? Greetings @wakeupkitty
I mean in this place
https://steemit.com/@commentcoin
There is a dedicated article explaining the current rules,
Otherwise it is difficult to know what the current rules are
@alucian and @commentcoin will answer,
But they are scattered among various articles or replies.
What is difficult for people to get to the current rules!
@cloudblade I read the article. It is a respond on my article where I told the tag is not activated. A part was later some where not yesterday. This was about 3 days ago. I think the rules are clear. 40 coins needed to use the tag once + extra to make the bot pay your commenters.